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Printed for the use of the Committee on the Judiciary

U.S. GOVERNMENT PRINTING OFFICE

WASHINGTON: 1967

COMMITTEE ON THE JUDICIARY

EMANUEL CELLER, New York, Chairman

MICHAEL A. FEIGHAN, Ohio

EDWIN E. WILLIS, Louisiana
PETER W. RODINO, JR., New Jersey
BYRON G. ROGERS, Colorado
HAROLD D. DONOHUE, Massachusetts
JACK BROOKS, Texas

WILLIAM M. TUCK, Virginia

ROBERT T. ASHMORE, South Carolina JOHN DOWDY, Texas

BASIL L. WHITENER, North Carolina
ROBERT W. KASTENMEIER, Wisconsin
JAMES C. CORMAN, California
WILLIAM L. ST. ONGE, Connecticut
DON EDWARDS, California

WILLIAM L. HUNGATE, Missouri
HERBERT TENZER, New York
JOHN CONYERS, JR., Michigan
ANDREW JACOBS, JR., Indiana
JOSHUA EILBERG, Pennsylvania

WILLIAM M. MCCULLOCH, Ohio
RICHARD H. POFF, Virginia
ARCH A. MOORE, JR., West Virginia
WILLIAM T. CAHILL, New Jersey
CLARK MACGREGOR, Minnesota
CHARLES MCC. MATHIAS, JR., Maryland
EDWARD HUTCHINSON, Michigan
ROBERT MCCLORY, Illinois

HENRY P. SMITH III, New York
WILLIAM V. ROTH, JR., Delaware
THOMAS J. MESKILL, Connecticut

CHARLES W. SANDMAN, JR., New Jersey
TOM RAILSBACK, Illinois

EDWARD G. BIESTER, JR., Pennsylvania CHARLES E. WIGGINS, California

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CONTENTS

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McClory, Hon. Robert, U.S. Representative from Illinois-
Mears, John S., assistant director, National Legislative Commission,
American Legion_ - .

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Meskill, Hon. Thomas J., U.S. Representative from Connecticut.

Morris, Edward, teaching fellow, Bowling Green State University,
Ohio...

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Quillen, Hon. James H., U.S. Representative from Tennessee
Randall, Hon. William J., U.S. Representative from Missouri_

Murphy, Hon. John M., U.S. Representative from New York.

Musmanno, Hon. Michael, justice, Supreme Court of Pennsylvania__
Myers, Hon. John T., U.S. Representative from Indiana__
O'Neal, Hon. Maston, U.S. Representative from Georgia
Pell, Hon. Claiborne, U.S. Senator from Rhode Island.
Pepper, Hon. Claude, U.S. Representative from Florida_

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Reid, Herbert O., Professor of Constitutional Law, Howard Uni-
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Dole, Hon. Robert, U.S. Representative from Kansas..
Edwards, Hon. Edwin W., U.S. Representative from Louisiana.
(Editorial, Shreveport Journal)

Fulton, Hon. James G., U.S. Representative from Pennsylvania..
Fulton, Hon. Richard Fulton, U.S. Representative from Tennessee.
Gubser, Hon. Charles S., U.S. Representative from California----
Hosmer, Hon. Craig, U.S. Representative from California.
Hunt, Hon. John E., U.S. Representative from New Jersey---
King, Hon. Carleton J., U.S. Representative from New York..
Langen, Hon. Odin, U.S. Representative from Minnesota...
McCulloch, Hon. William M., U.S. Representative from Ohio___
McDonald, Hon. Jack H., U.S. Representative from Michigan_
Nelsen, Hon. Ancher, U.S. Representative from Minnesota- -
Nolan, Robert W., national executive secretary, Fleet Reserve Asso-
ciation

Papantonio, Edward, chairman, National Americanism Committee,
VFW, New York, N.Y..

Reid, Hon. Charlotte T., U.S. Representative from Illinois_
Roberts, Hon. Ray, U.S. Representative from Texas,

Schadeberg, Hon. Henry C., U.S. Representative from Wisconsin__
Shriver, Hon. Garner E., U.S. Representative from Kansas-
Staggers, Hon. Harley O., U.S. Representative from West Virginia...
Sutherland, Arthur E., Professor of Law, Harvard University-
Taylor, Hon. Roy A., U.S. Representative from North Carolina___.
Watson, Hon. Albert W., U.S. Representative from South Carolina..
Willis, Hon. Edwin E., U.S. Representative from Louisiana--

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H.R. 271, AND SIMILAR BILLS, TO PROHIBIT

DESECRATION OF THE FLAG

MONDAY, MAY 8, 1967

HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES,

SUBCOMMITTEE No. 4 OF THE
COMMITTEE ON THE JUDICIARY,
Washington, D.C.

The subcommittee met, pursuant to call, at 10 a.m., in room 2141, Rayburn House Office Building, Hon. Byron G. Rogers (chairman of the subcommittee) presiding.

Present: Representatives Rogers, Whitener, Jacobs, McClory, and Poff.

Present also: Benjamin L. Zelenko, counsel, and Donald G. Benn, associate counsel.

Mr. ROGERS. The hearing will come to order.

Today, Subcommittee No. 4 of the Committee on the Judiciary begins hearings on measures designed to make the desecration of the flag a Federal crime.

Over 60 proposals are now pending before this subcommittee which would make it a Federal offense to publicly mutilate, deface, defile, defy, trample upon or cast contempt upon, either by word or act, the og of the United States.

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The bills before us differ primarily with respect to the severity of the criminal penalties they would impose. The greatest number of identical bills impose a fine of $1,000 "and" imprisonment for 1 year.

Other measures provide for maximum penalties of five years' imprisonment and/or $10,000 fine. Still other bills provide lower penalties.

The committee desires to proceed in its hearings with appropriate expedition and due deliberation. It will receive testimony from congressional sponsors of the legislation and from organizations who have indicated an interest in a proposed Federal criminal statute.

Without objection, the text of the measures dealing with the subject will be included in the record at this point." (The documents referred to follow :)

[H.R. 271, 90th Cong., first sess.]

A BILL To prohibit desecration of the flag

Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled, That (a) section 3 of title 4, United States Code, is amended by designating the first sentence thereof as subsection (a) and the second sentence thereof as subsection (c), and by inserting after subsection (a) the following:

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