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their bases to check questionable books and magazines and so forth? Chaplain CARLIN. Yes, sir. I think they are adequate.

Mr. KENDALL. That is all I have, Mr. Chairman.

Senator STENNIS. All right, Chaplain, we thank you again for your attendance here and attention you have given to this matter.

Chaplain CARLIN. Thank you, sir. It was a privilege to be part of the committee meeting.

SUBCOMMITTEE TO VIEW FILMS

Senator THURMOND. Mr. Chairman, I want to congratulate the chaplain on the production of "Moral Leadership-Communism." It is a right important film, and I think the subcommittee ought to see it. Would you want to see it this morning, or what is your pleasure?

Senator STENNIS. It has been my idea, Senator, that as we went along and various films came into prominence-I have seen some of them, you have seen some-that as we would make the list up, then we would have a special meeting some day when more could be here, and show these films.

Senator THURMOND. I think it would be well if we could have others present because it is right important.

Senator STENNIS. Put this one on the list as well as the one we had the other day. Then, of course, "Operation Abolition," is one that we have had a lot of testimony about. Let us put that on our list of films that we want to show to the full meeting of the subcommittee. All right, thank you again.

Chaplain CARLIN. Thank you, sir.

Senator STENNIS. With the thanks of the subcommittee, you are excused.

Now we have the next witness on our list, 1st Lt. James E. Turner. Lieutenant, will you please come around?

All right, gentlemen, may we have quiet, please.

Lieutenant, do you solemnly swear that your testimony before this subcommittee will be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help you God?

Lieutenant TURNER. I do, sir.

Senator STENNIS. All right, sir, have a seat.

Lieutenant, I have a biographical sketch here which shows that you are on duty now. You are a civilian but on duty now in what we call the callup, is that right?

TESTIMONY OF LT. JAMES E. TURNER, JR., 109TH ORDNANCE BATTALION, ABERDEEN PROVING GROUND

Lieutenant TURNER. Yes, sir.

TURNER BIOGRAPHY

Senator STENNIS. All right, this biographical sketch, Mr. Reporter, will go in at this place.

(The biographical sketch referred to is as follows:)

BIOGRAPHICAL SKETCH OF 1ST LT. JAMES E. TURNER, JR., 02268696

Birthplace: Providence, R.I.

Education:

Civilian University of Delaware;

Military Chemical, biological, radiological officer course, February 1962. Experience, military:

Security officer, 109th Ordnance Battalion, 1959 to date.

CO, B Battery, 193 AAA Skysweeper Battalion, 1956-59.

XO, A Battery, 193 AAA Skysweeper Battalion, 1953-56.
All above are National Guard.

XO, 477th C.I.D., Reserve, 1949–52.

U.S. Navy, 1944-46.

Experience, civilian:

Delaware State police sergeant, 1947-61.
Presently on military leave.

Senator STENNIS. We are glad to have you here, sir. You do not have a prepared statement?

Lieutenant TURNER. No, sir, Senator, I do not.

Senator STENNIS. Mr. Kendall, do you have some questions for the lieutenant?

Mr. KENDALL. No questions, Mr. Chairman.

Senator STENNIS. Senator Thurmond, will you proceed, please, sir?

TURNER CALLED BACK TO ACTIVE DUTY IN 1961

Senator THURMOND. Lieutenant Turner, it is my understanding that you are on active duty as a result of the callup of the Reserve and National Guard units in 1961, is that correct?

Lieutenant TURNER. Yes, sir, I came on active duty in October.

TURNER A DELAWARE STATE POLICE SERGEANT

Senator THURMOND. What is your occupation in civilian life?
Lieutenant TURNER. I am a State policeman.

Senator THURMOND. Where?

Lieutenant TURNER. In the State of Delaware, sir.

Senator THURMOND. What type of duties do you perform in your civilian job with the Delaware State Police?

Lieutenant TURNER. At the time I came on active duty, I was a shift commander or a sergeant.

Senator THURMOND. A what?

Lieutenant TURNER. A shift commander or a sergeant. We enforce all the laws of State and Federal, not only traffic but criminal, also.

DELAWARE STATE POLICE INSERVICE TRAINING SCHOOL

Senator THURMOND. It is our understanding that the Delaware State Police have an annual program of inservice training, is that correct?

Lieutenant TURNER. Yes, sir, an inservice school.

Senator THURMOND. An inservice school?

Lieutenant TURNER. Yes, sir.

Senator THURMOND. Would you tell the subcommittee just what type of school this is?

Lieutenant TURNER. Senator, once a year all members of the department must attend this school, and at that time new work is put out, ideas, new policies are established, and outside speakers are brought in to give the latest information available.

Senator THURMOND. As I understand it, then, this is a program whereby the Delaware State Police are brought together for a 2-day course in all the subjects which are pertinent to police officers? Lieutenant TURNER. Yes, sir, only this course lasts a week. Every member must go 1 week.

Senator THURMOND. Oh, it is a week's course?

Lieutenant TURNER. Yes, sir.

Senator THURMOND. A week of classroom instruction?

Lieutenant TURNER. Yes, sir.

Senator THURMOND. We are informed that in the fall of 1960, Colonel Ferguson, the superintendent of the Delaware State Police, decided that instructions should be included in this inservice school on the subject of "Communism."

Did you attend this 1960 inservice school of the Delaware State Police?

Lieutenant TURNER. Yes, sir, I did.

Senator THURMOND. Lieutenant Turner, could you give us some description of the type and substance of the instruction concerning communism which was included in this school?

Lieutenant TURNER. Sir, the instruction lasted

Senator STENNIS. Pardon me just a minute. I want to be sure I understand.

You say the Delaware State Police inservice school?

Senator THURMOND. Yes.

Senator STENNIS. Were you there as a Delaware State policeman? Lieutenant TURNER. Yes, sir, I was there as a State policeman. This is prior to my coming on active duty.

Senator STENNIS. All right.

Lieutenant TURNER. The instruction lasted approximately 1 day, and it covered the background of communism, their methods of infiltration, their methods of propaganda, their methods of speeches, methods of identification from one Communist to another, and it was quite extensive and very enlightening.

It was actually the first formal education that most of us had ever had as to Communist activities, I mean to actually recognize these activities.

Senator THURMOND. Could you speak a little louder?

Lieutenant TURNER. I am sorry, sir.

The instruction got right down to the grassroots of it, and they taught us how to identify Communist activities, their methods of infiltration, their methods of communication such as their speeches, their writing, et cetera, and we were shown examples of these, the Communist methods of identification between themselves.

This was the first formal instruction that most of us had ever had as to these actual methods.

Senator THURMOND. Did you find this course on communism helpful?

Lieutenant TURNER. Yes, sir, very much so.

Senator THURMOND. Lieutenant Turner, is it correct that Colonel Ferguson, to provide knowledgeable instructors on Communist tactics and operations, requested assistance from the Army?

Lieutenant TURNER. I do not know where he made the original request, sir.

The ultimate was that we got the assistance from the Army. Now, just how he went about it to get this, I am not familiar with."

DELAWARE POLICEMEN ABLE TO COMBAT COMMUNISM BETTER AFTER

COURSE

Senator THURMOND. An Army instructor provided the program. As a result of this particular type of instruction, do you believe or know that the Delaware State Police, through cooperation with the Army and through this new instruction on Communist propaganda activities and subversive materials, were able to contribute more effectively to civic security and defense against the techniques of Communist subversion, agitation, and hate mongering?

Lieutenant TURNER. Yes, sir, I think so. In fact, I feel quite certain it is so.

After this period of instruction, the department was so much impressed that they, along with

Senator THURMOND. Which department?

Lieutenant TURNER. Our department, sir.

Senator THURMOND. The State police department?

SEMINAR CONDUCTED FOR CIVILIAN GROUPS BY DELAWARE STATE

POLICE

Lieutenant TURNER. The State police were so much impressed that they conducted a seminar with the help of the Army or with the— Senator THURMOND. Excuse me, they did what?

Lieutenant TURNER. Conducted a seminar for all civilian groups, with the assistance of the Army. The idea was to get as many people, responsible people, as they could, to come to this seminar, and basically, the seminar covered the same things that we had gotten in service school, possibly in a little more detail.

FILM "OPERATION ABOLITION" SHOWN THROUGHOUT DELAWARE

Senator THURMOND. That was the seminar held at the De La War High School in Wilmington. Lieutenant, we understand that the Delaware State Police made use of the film "Operation Abolition," and showed it to a large number of organizations. Are you familiar with this activity?

Lieutenant TURNER. Yes, sir.

The film was shown to all members of the department at an inservice school, and then an officer from the department was assigned to the film.

When I say "assigned to the film," he actually took the film out and showed it to any organization that requested it. This was done quite extensively because, frankly, practically all veterans organizations saw the film. Most of the PTA's in Delaware that I know of saw the film and a lot of other service organizations.

Senator THURMOND. Could you give us an estimate of the number of people or organizations to whom this film was shown by the Delaware State Police?

Lieutenant TURNER. No, sir, I am afraid I cannot. I would say that it was shown extensively through Delaware, and from the people I have talked to, the public got a great deal out of it and enjoyed the film.

Senator THURMOND. The reaction to the film was favorable? Lieutenant TURNER. Yes, sir, for the most part. There was some dissension.

TURNER HAS NOT SEEN "OPERATION ABOLITION" WHILE IN ARMY

Senator THURMOND. Lieutenant Turner, since you have been on active duty, has the film "Operation Abolition," to your knowledge, been shown on your post?

Lieutenant TURNER. No, sir, not to my knowledge.

Senator THURMOND. Lieutenant Turner, a great many of us feel that the film "Operation Abolition" is a very effective instrument for alerting Americans as to what can happen when intensive Communist propaganda and agitational activities are concentrated on our young people.

As we are all aware, the film has been the subject of a massive attack by certain elements within our society, including the Communists themselves.

Did the use of this film by the Delaware State Police before the various organizations provoke criticism of the police; and, if so, would you tell us what occurred?

Lieutenant TURNER. Yes, sir.

The department—I say the "department"-actually, Colonel Ferguson was attacked by a group who believed that the film did not show the true picture. They objected to the film, stating, I believe, that we were trying to brainwash the public. By this time, fortunately, the film had been shown to a number of groups, and the veterans organizations got up in arms and backed the department thoroughly and Colonel Ferguson, and they continued to show the film.

The dissenters were sort of beaten down, so to speak.

TURNER ASSIGNED AS SECURITY OFFICER IN ARMY

Senator THURMOND. Or perhaps the dissenters learned the true facts of the Communist manipulation of these students. Lieutenant Turner, it is our understanding that you are now on an assignment as security officer while you are on active duty.

It is very encouraging to find that the services are utilizing your civilian experience and training in your active duty assignment. Is that correct?

Lieutenant TURNER. Yes, sir.

I am the security officer for the 109th Ordnance Battalion.

ARMY'S INTEREST IN POLICE PROGRAM PAYS DIVIDENDS

Senator THURMOND. In your work as security officer, do you feel that your effectiveness is increased significantly by the instruction on communism, its operations and methods, which Colonel Ferguson had the foresight to include in the Delaware State Police training program?

Lieutenant TURNER. Yes, sir, I do.

Senator THURMOND. Would you say, then, Lieutenant Turner, that the Army's investment of time and effort in providing assistance in the

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