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Harrison, Maj. Gen. William H., Jr. (president, National Guard Associa-
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Hatfield, Hon. Mark O. (Governor of Oregon) -

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Hermes, Comdr. Frederick W., Jr., U.S. Coast Guard (Office of Assistant
Chief of Staff, Reserves, U.S. Coast Guard) –

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Hershey, Lt. Gen. Lewis B. (Director, Selective Service System).
Hicks, Col. Fred A., U.S. Army (former Chief, Mobilization Plans Division,
Department of the Army) --

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Hittle, Brig. Gen. J. D., U.S. Marine Corps (retired) (director of national
security and foreign affairs, Veterans of Foreign Wars)
Hollingsworth, Col. James F. (Office of Secretary of Defense)

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Howell, Comdr. Hugh, Jr., U.S. Naval Reserve (vice president for legislation, Naval Reserve Association).

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Hyle, Lt. Col. Archie R., U.S. Army (assistant to Chief of Staff, Department of the Army).

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Jackson, Rear Adm. Alexander, Jr., U.S. Naval Reserve (director of naval affairs, Reserve Officers Association) __.

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Johnson, Vice Adm. Felix, U.S. Navy (retired) (Chairman, Naval Reserve
Evaluation Board, Department of the Navy) –

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Kerr, Capt. Evor S., Jr., U.S. Coast Guard (Assistant Chief of Staff for Reserve Affairs, U.S. Coast Guard)

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Keyser, Hon. F. Ray, Jr. (Governor of Vermont).
Korth, Hon. Fred (Secretary of the Navy)

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Lang, J. A., Jr. (Deputy for Reserve and ROTC Affairs, Department of the
Air Force).

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Lemnitzer, Gen. L. L., U.S. Army (Chairman, Joint Chiefs of Staff).
MacGregor, Congressman Clark (Minnesota) –

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McCarty, Maj. Gen. C. E., U.S. Air Force (Assistant Chief of Staff for
Reserve Forces, Department of the Air Force).

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McGowan, Maj. Gen. D. W. (Chief, Army National Guard Bureau).
Menist, Maj. Gen. Stuart D., U.S. Army Reserve (president, Senior Reserve
Commanders Association, Army of the United States)

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Meyerhoff, Dr. Howard A. (Executive Director, Scientific Manpower Commission).

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Notte, Hon. John A., Jr. (Governor of Rhode Island) –

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Olson, Clarence (director of legislative affairs, American Legion)---
Palladino, Maj. Gen. Ralph A., U.S. Army Reserve (Military Executive,
Reserve Forces Policy Board).

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Peck, Dr. Merton J. (Office of Secretary of Defense Comptroller).
Quirey, Col. William O. (Office of Secretary of Defense) –

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Rambeau, Col. Jack, U.S. Air Force Reserve (Air Force Association) –
Reuss, Congressman Henry S. (Wisconsin).

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Riehlman, Congressman R. Walter (New York)

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Robertson, Col. James C., U.S. Army (former Chief, Mobilization Plans
Division, Department of the Army).

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Rogers, Congressman Paul G. (Florida).

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Rubin, Harold H. (Associate Director of Defense Accounting and Auditing Division, General Accounting Office) -.

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Runge, Hon. Carlisle P. (Assistant Secretary of Defense (Manpower)).
Sawyer, Hon. Grant (Governor of Nevada).

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Saylor, Congressman John P. (Pennsylvania).

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Seely-Brown, Congressman Horace, Jr. (Connecticut).

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Slezak, John (Chairman, Reserve Forces Policy Board).

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Sibal, Congressman Abner W. (Connecticut) __.

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Smedberg, Vice Adm. W. R., U.S. Navy (Chief of Naval Personnel).
Stafford, Congressman Robert T. (Vermont)--

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Sutherland, Maj. Gen. Carl T., U.S. Army Reserve (Chairman, General
Staff Committee on Armed Reserve Policy)

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Tyree, Rear Adm. J. A., Jr., (Assistant Chief, Naval Operations (Naval
Reserve))

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Warren, Maj. Gen. F. M., U.S. Army (Chief, Army Reserve and ROTC
Affairs, Department of the Army)

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Williams, Brig. Gen. Gene H. (adjutant general of West Virginia).
Williams, Congressman John Bell (Mississippi) –

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Wilson, Maj. Gen. W. P., U.S. Air Force (Assistant Chief, National Guard

Bureau for Air National Guard and Deputy Chief, National Guard
Bureau)

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Zuckert, Hon. Eugene M. (Secretary of the Air Force) ––

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Foss, Brig. Gen. Joe, U.S. Air Force Reserve, president__

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Rambeau, Col. Jack_

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Air Force, Department of:

Fields, Maj. W., Office Air Reserve Records Center_

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Fridge, Benjamin W., special assistant (manpower, personnel, and
Reserve Forces).

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Lang, J. A., Jr., Deputy for Reserve and ROTC Affairs_.

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McCarty, Maj. Gen. C. E., Assistant Chief of Staff for Reserve Forces.
Zuckert, Hon. Eugene M., Secretary of the Air Force----

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American Legion:

Bacon, Comdr. Charles L., U.S. Naval Reserve, national commander__
Olson, Clarence, director of legislative affairs__

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American Medical Association: Blasingame, Dr. F. J. L___
Appendixes. (See p. 6385.)

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Army, Department of:

Ailes, Hon. Stephen, Under Secretary of the Army.
Colglazier, Lt. Gen. R. W., Jr., U.S. Army, Deputy Chief of Staff
for Logistics__.

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Cooper, Maj. Gen. Ralph C., U.S. Army, Assistant Deputy Chief of
Staff for logistics_.

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Darnell, Maj. Gen. Carl, Jr., U.S. Army, Assistant Chief of Staff for
Reserve Components--.

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Decker, Gen. George H., U.S. Army, Chief of Staff.
Duff, Maj. Gen. Charles B., U.S. Army, Director of Army Budget_ 5762
Fitt, Alfred B., Deputy for Manpower_

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Hicks, Col. Fred A., U.S. Army, former Chief, Mobilization Plans
Division_.

Hamlett, Gen. Barksdale, U.S. Army, Vice Chief of Staff..

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Hyle, Lt. Col. Archie R., U.S. Army, assistant to Army Chief of Staff 5711
Robertson, Col. James C., U.S. Army, former Chief, Mobilization Plans
Division.

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Warren, Maj. Gen., F. M., U.S. Army, Chief, Army Reserve and
ROTC Affairs___.

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Defense, Department of:

Bartimo, Frank, Assistant General Counsel for Manpower_
Hollingsworth, Col. James F., Office of the Secretary_
Peck, Dr. Merton J., Office of the Comptroller.
Quirey, Col. William O., Office of the Secretary.

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Runge, Hon. Carlisle P., Assistant Secretary of Defense (Manpower)

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General Accounting Office: Rubins, Harold H., Associate Director of Defense Accounting and Auditing Division__.

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Joint Chiefs of Staff: Lemnitzer, Gen. L. L., U.S. Army, Chairman_.
Labor, Department of: Goldberg, Hon. Arthur J., Secretary-
Members of Congress:

Avery, Hon. William H. (Kansas).
Davis, Hon. James C. (Georgia).
Gathings, Hon. E. C. (Arkansas).
Gavin, Hon. Leon H. (Pennsylvania)
Hall, Hon. Durward G. (Missouri).
MacGregor, Hon. Clark (Minnesota)
Reuss, Hon. Henry S. (Wisconsin).
Riehlman, Hon. R. Walter (New York)
Rogers, Hon. Paul G. (Florida) ----
Saylor, Hon. John P. (Pennsylvania)

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National Guard Association: Harrison, Maj. Gen. William H., Jr., president___

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National Guard Bureau:

McGowan, Maj. Gen. D. W., Chief, Army_.

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Wilson, Maj. Gen. W. P., Assistant Chief, Air Force-

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Naval Reserve Association: Howell, Comdr. Hugh, Jr., U.S. Naval Reserve, vice president for legislation_.

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Navy, Department of:

Johnson, Vice Adm. Felix, U.S. Navy (retired), Chairman, Naval
Reserve Evaluation Board__.

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Korth, Hon. Fred, Secretary of the Navy-.

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Smedberg, Vice Adm. W. R., Chief of Naval Personnel_.

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Tyree, Rear Adm. J. A., Jr., Assistant Chief, Naval Operations (Naval
Reserve).

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Reserve Forces Policy Board:

Cantwell, Maj. Gen. James F., U.S. Army Reserve, Chairman, General
Staff Committees on National Guard and Army Reserve Policy---
Palladino, Maj. Gen. Ralph A., U.S. Army Reserve, Military Executive_
Slezak, John, Chairman__.

Sutherland, Maj. Gen. Carl T., U.S. Army Reserve, Chairman,
General Staff Committee on Armed Reserve Policy---.

Reserve Officers Association:

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Carlton, Col. Jake, executive director___.

Barden, Lawrence C., president of Philadelphia chapter_
Boyer, Col. C. M., consultant____

Brackett, Col. Arthur, director of Air Force affairs_.
Harlin, Rear Adm. John E., president_.

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Jackson, Rear Adm. Alexander, Jr., director of naval affairs___. Scientific Manpower Commission: Meyerhoff, Dr. Howard A., executive director__

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Selective Service System: Hershey, Lt. Gen. Lewis B., director_.
Senior Reserve Commanders Association, Army of the United States:
Anderson, Maj. Gen. LeRoy H-----

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Billado, Maj. Gen. Francis W., adjutant general of Vermont--

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Bryant, Hon. Farris, Governor of Florida_.

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Clinger, Maj. Gen. Sherman T., adjutant general for Arkansas_.

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Sawyer, Hon. Grant, Governor of Nevada___.

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Williams, Brig. Gen. Gene H., adjutant general for West Virginia_-_- 6031 U.S. Coast Guard:

Garner, Comdr. George I., Chief, Regulations Branch, Reserve Division__.

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Hermes, Comdr. Frederick W., Jr., Office of Assistant Chief of
Staff, Reserves_.

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Kerr, Capt. Evor S., Jr., Assistant Chief of Staff for Reserve Affairs U.S. Marine Corps: Fairbourn, Brig. Gen. W. I., Director, Division of Reserve___

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Veterans of Foreign Wars: Hittle, Brig. Gen. J. D. U.S. Marine Corps (retired), director of national security and foreign affairs____.

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[No. 66]

MILITARY RESERVE POSTURE HEARINGS

HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES,

SUBCOMMITTEE No. 3 OF THE

COMMITTEE ON ARMED SERVICES,

Washington, D.C., Monday, April 16, 1962.

The subcommittee met at 10 a.m., Hon. F. Edward Hébert (chairman of the subcommittee) presiding.

Mr. HÉBERT. The committee will be in order.

Members of the committee, the Chair wishes to make this opening statement in connection with the hearings.

Before beginning our hearings this morning, I wish to make a brief statement for the record which will reflect the purpose and objectives of these hearings.

This subcommittee, by delegation of authority from the chairman of the Committee on Armed Services, has, over the years, exercised primary legislative responsibility over the laws affecting our Reserve Forces.

As a consequence of this legislative responsibility and jurisdiction, this subcommittee has, when other committee activity would permit, conducted an annual review of the posture of our Reserve Forces. This review has been important in the past in enabling the subcommittee to view in proper perspective legislative recommendations originating in the Department of Defense or from Members of Congress which affected our Reserve Forces.

Today, we are again beginning our annual review of the posture of our Reserve Forces. However, the review this year will, for reasons which I intend to briefly outline, be much more important to all concerned, than those we have had in the past.

The distinction between Reserve posture hearings held in previous years, as compared to our present hearing, principally lies in the fact that in previous years we have discussed mobilization capabilities of the Reserve Forces in academic or hypothetical terms— today, by virtue of the recent limited mobilization of our Reserve Forces, we can discuss this mobilization capability on a factual basis. The Reserve Forces structure has now been subjected to a test in the crucible of actual mobilization-we intend to determine whether it has met this test satisfactorily, or whether administrative or legislative changes are required.

We are all aware of the almost countless charges and countercharges of alleged deficiencies and inequities in the Reserve program that have become a matter of public discussion during the past few months. We are also aware that certain individuals may attempt to make "political hay" out of this situation.

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I speak for the members of the subcommittee and myself when I state, most categorically, that these hearings will not become a forum for a "political marathon."

The security of our Nation and the shape and composition of our Reserve Forces is not a partisan issue. For example, we are vitally interested in the proposed reorganization of the Army Reserve components not because of any sectional or partisan consideration, but solely on the effect it will have on our national security.

In view of this consideration, this subcommittee has been advised that the Department of Defense has agreed not to implement its proposed Army Reserve reorganization plan until after the subcommittee has reached its own conclusions on the subject.

This subcommittee has deliberately refrained from making any statement or expressing any opinion in connection with these hearings because of its desire to approach this entire subject with complete objectivity.

I might add that some members of the subcommittee may have been criticized for this seeming reluctance to take a position on various of these problmes. However, regardless of this criticism, we will not prejudge this case until we have had an opportunity to review all the facts.

Then, and only then, will we have any recommendation to make, either in the legislative or administrative field.

Although we hope to conclude our hearings as promptly as possible, we will not do so at the expense of obtaining less than the complete picture.

We, therefore, intend to hear from anyone who can make a genuine contribution to the effort being made by our subcommittee to completely review our Reserve Forces program.

At this point in the record, if there is no objection, I will read the letter received by the subcommittee establishing its jurisdiction in this matter and outlining areas of particular interest.

This is the letter from Chairman Vinson, addressed to me as chairman of this subcommittee.

DEAR MR. HÉBERT: In accordance with authority previously vested in me by the full Committee on Armed Services, I am hereby delegating to Subcommittee No. 3, with you as chairman, the responsibility for conducting a comprehensive inquiry into the defense posture of the Reserve components of our Armed Forces. The scope of your inquiry shall include, but not be limited to, the following pertinent considerations:

(a) Review of alleged deficiencies resulting from the recent limited mobilization of the Reserve components.

(b) National defense requirments for a Reserve component program. (c) Present and future costs of the Reserve component program.

(d) Ability of the Reserve components to fulfill mobilization requirements

(e) Review of the application of the statutory Reserve military obligation on individuals who have completed 2 or more years of active duty.

In view of the importance of this inquiry, I would urge that you attempt to complete subcommittee action for report to the full committee prior to the conclusion of this session of the Congress.

Sincerely,

CARL VINSON, Chairman.

Our hearing schedule is flexible. The subcommittee has agreed to meeting during the period April 16 to 19. That is Thursday of this week-Monday through Thursday of this week. After that time, present plans call for adjournment during the Easter recess.

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