Q. Where did Flanders Hall fit into the picture?

A. Flanders Hall was run by two brothers named Hauck, under Viereck's direction. I don't know how the arrangements were worked out in details because I was too occupied with my main tasks to draft political reports and to cultivate the relations with the American forces.

Q. Exactly what did Flanders Hall do?

A. The manuscripts of certain books came from the Foreign Office in Berlin in the diplomatic pouch or otherwise, and then went to the German Library of Information. Viereck selected from those manuscripts those which he thought might criticize and unmask British propaganda and egoistic British foreign policy, and which could easily be sold in the United States.

Q. Then what happened?

A. Viereck would publish these books at Flanders Hall. If he thought a financial risk was involved, he would contact me, and say that the costs would amount to $5,000 or sometimes even to $10,000.

Q. What did you do?

A. I drafted a report for the Chief of Mission, which was cabled to Berlin and after having received approval, Viereck would receive the money. He always received lump sums of 5 or 10 thousand dollars.

Q. Do you recall the names of the books that you and the Foreign Office approved, and whose publication by Flanders Hall you directly financed?

A. I remember "Lothian versus Lothian", "English Policy in India", "English Policy in Ireland", "English Policy in Palestine", "Britain's 100 families" by the German author, G. Wirsing. The manuscripts of these books had come originally from Berlin, and were then published by Viereck after I had advanced funds to him.

Q. Did the publication of each of these books entail a loss? A. I don't know. I don't believe so. Books about Ireland sold easily. Lothian versus Lothian was a big success. The book on India sold well. Some didn't sell so well.

Q. If no loss was sustained in the publication of any book, did Viereck return the money you had given him?

A. No. He kept it.

Q. Did he also keep all profits on books he distributed through Flanders Hall?

A. Yes.

Q. How much did you give to Viereck to carry out his propaganda activities?

A. Between 70 and 120,000 dollars during the period 1939 to 1941.

Q. There is a considerable spread between $70,000 and $120,000. Can't you be more exact?

A. No. I'm sorry. I always gave Viereck round sums of $5,000, $10,000 or $15,000. I never kept an exact accounting of these funds.

Q. Didn't the Foreign Office insist upon some sort of an accounting? My studies of the Reichsbank and Ministry of Economics files indicate that Germany was rather short of foreign exchange, and that they sought to control it as much as possible.

A. Even after my return to Berlin 1942 I was never asked any questions by officials in Berlin about what had been done with the funds of the Kriegskostensonderfonds. Viereck had been chosen in Berlin as their propaganda representative, and I felt no need to account for any money given to him. Q. Did the manuscripts of all books published by Flanders Hall originate in Germany?

A. No. It also distributed various books by American authors which criticized British propaganda and tried to keep the United States out of the war. I remember a book by Porter Sargent; a book by Peterson called "Propaganda for War"; the book "England expects Every American to do his duty". I believe that Flanders Hall also published one or two books by Congressman Stephan Day about British propaganda. Q. Do you know anything about the negotiations which led to the publication of these books?

Q. Did Viereck help write any of these books?

A. I don't know. He may have helped Congressman Day. I seem to remember Viereck's saying he had written down some highlights for Congressman Day.

Q. What was Viereck's connection with Porter Sargent?

A. Viereck told me that he financed the book of Porter Sargent. Q. How?

A. I suppose that he bought for Flanders Hall a certain number of copies, so that thereby was rumored the financial risk for Mr. Sargent.

Q. Did Viereck ever mention the name of Senator Lundeen to you?

A. Yes. He told me that he was an old friend of his and that

when the President of the German Red Cross came to the United States Viereck claimed to have arranged that Senator Lundeen pronounced the after-dinner welcome speech.

Q. Did Viereck ever mention that he had written some of Senator Lundeen's speeches?

A. Yes. He told me on a number of occasions that he had written down high lights to be used by Senator Lundeen in his speeches.

Q. Did Viereck state to you that he had written speeches for any other Senators or Congressmen, or contribute ideas for their speeches?

A. I am not sure. I don't remember all the details. Viereck tried to give me the impression that he had good relations with a number of senators and congressmen-Lundeen, Hamilton Fish, Senator Holt, and Stephen Day-and maybe more, but I do not remember all the names.

Q. To your knowledge, did Viereck ever advance any funds to any congressman or senator for any purpose?

A. No. I do not think Viereck would do that. He was too precautious.

Q. Did you?

A. Absolutely not.

Q. Did Viereck ever mention William Griffin to you?

A. Was he the editor or publisher of the New York Inquirer?
Q. Yes.

A. Several times he mentioned Griffin.
Q. In what connection?

A. Griffin several times took up advertising in his daily newspaper in which he dealt with the Flanders Hall publications to spread them. Griffin was much against England. I believe he had sued Churchill. He hated England.

Q. Do you mean Viereck inserted advertisements in the New York Inquirer?

A. Yes, but Viereck, or rather Flanders Hall under his direction, also advertised in the New York Times, New York Herald Tribune, Daily Mirror, and other papers.

Q. Did Viereck pay a larger sum for his advertisements in the New York Inquirer than in other papers?

A. Not a higher rate, but bigger advertisements.

bought say half a page, and Griffin would not likely receive such a huge advertisement from another single person.

Q. Why did Viereck place such large advertisements with Griffin?

A. Griffin helped Viereck distribute his books. The other

newspapers did not do that. Viereck and Griffin were working-how do you say it-hand in glove.

Q. What else besides advertise in the New York Inquirer did Viereck do for Griffin?

A. Besides these advertisements, I think it was in the New York Inquirer that Viereck organized a contest about foreign policy, and one of the requirements was that the contestants should have studied the books published by Flanders Hall. Q. What was the prize?

A. Speculating-about $500. Maybe more.

Q. Who made these funds available?

A. Viereck. He turned over these funds to Griffin to be used in the contest.

Q. In what other way, if any, did Viereck help out Griffin? A. Griffin was Irish and had Irish friends; and so I think that many copies of the book about British Atrocities in Ireland were handed over to Griffin by Viereck, and he sold them to his Irish friends at meetings which he helped to organize. Q. Were these books given to Griffin by Viereck free of charge? A. I believe so.

Q. And Griffin thereafter sold them?

Q. What happened to the proceeds of these sales?

A. My understanding was that they were kept by Griffin.

Q. Did Viereck give Griffin other Flanders Hall books in addition to the book concerning British Atrocities in Ireland?

Q. Have you ever spoken to Griffin about these things?

A. No. My information came from Viereck..

Q. Do you know Laurence Dennis?

Q. When did you first meet him?

A. I met Laurence Dennis in the period 1940/41 and I think I met him, as far as I remember, in one of the South American Legations which I visited frequently-either the Argentine, Chilian, or Cuban Embassy. I think the reason why Mr. Dennis was present is that he had been in the American diplomatic service and I think he served in one of those countries. We had conversations about his opinion on the political state of affairs.

Q. Was he publishing his Weekly Foreign Letter at that time? A. If he already did so at that time or later, I do not know.

But later I received the "Weekly Foreign Letter" in which he wrote about domestic and international politics as well as economic affairs.

Q. Did he send you this copy free of charge or did you subscribe?

A. I do not remember.

Q. When was your next visit?

A. I do not recall definitely. I think I have seen him several times, but not often.

Q. Did he ever indicate to you that he was in need of funds? A. If he mentioned it or if other people mentioned it to me that he needed funds, I do not remember.

Q. But you do recall that you were advised by someone that he was in need of funds?

A. Yes, I knew that he was not doing too well.

Q. Did you ever give him any funds?

A. No, not directly as far as I remember.

Q. Have you ever heard of his book "The Dynamics of War and Revolution"?

A. Yes, I received a copy of this Dennis book and I glanced through it. It seemed like an interesting book.

Q. Did you know that 1,500 copies of this book were distributed free of charge to the colleges and universities throughout the United States?

A. I did not know that.

Q. Did you advance funds to him for that purpose?

A. No, I do not think so, because that book would not have fit in the line of books, that the Embassy sponsored.

Q. Did you ever discuss a scheme to publish European editions of Dennis' book?

A. As far as I remember, Dennis was approached with the plan that European editions of his book should be issued and it was thought that this was a practical way to give him indirect financial help and to publicize his personality. Q. What is the source of your information?

A. Either through Dennis or another source, I had heard that Berlin had such a plan. Now, it could have been that it was mentioned in an instruction or communication.

Q. Who would know about that?

A. Dennis. Or there were quite a number of Nazi agencies that occupied themselves with propaganda in the United States. Q. What were those Nazi agencies?

A. The German Railway Information Service, the GermanAmerican Chamber of Commerce, Westermann Book Store,