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segments of the population which I think meet the requirements of this provision which is a paraphrase of existing law.

Chairman DONOHUE. Would you submit that list to the committee? Mr. SKORA. Yes, sir.

AMERICAN REVOLUTION BICENTENNIAL COMMISSION MEMBERS

As of March 14, 1973, the 25 Commission members from private life includes five historians, five educators, four businessmen, three publishers, two broadcasters, two lawyers, one judge, one engineer and former Mayor of Dallas, Texas, one popular entertainer, four women, four blacks, one Mexican-American, one American Indian, and four members under age 25.

The average age of the present Commission member is currently 48.4, as compared to 65.8 for the original 1967 Commission, and 62.3 for the Commission as of 1970.

Attached is a current list of Commission members.

AMERICAN REVOLUTION BICENTENNIAL COMMISSION

MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION

Chairman:

Hon. David J. Mahoney, Chairman, American Revolution Bi- (212) 371–1776..
centennial Commission, 277 Park Ave., 45th Floor, New
York, N.Y.

Vice Chairman:

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Mr. Hobart Lewis, President and Executive Editor, Reader's (914) 769-700- New York Office July 1969.
Digest, Pleasantville, N.Y.

Congressional Members:

Hon. Edward W. Brooke, U.S. Senate, Washington, D.C...
Hon. Charles McC. Mathias, Jr. U.S. Senate, Washington,
D.C.

Hon. Joseph M. Montoya, U.S. Senate, Washington, D.C..
Hon. Sam Nunn, U.S. Senate, Washington, D.C..
Hon. Gerry E. Studds, House of Representatives, Washington,
D.C.

(212) 972-4000

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Hon. Julia Butler Hansen, House of Representatives, Washington, D.C.

(202) 225-3536..

Hon. G. William Whitehurst, House of Representatives, Washington, D.C.

(202) 224-4215..

Hon. Lawrence G. Williams, House of Representatives, Wash- (202) 225–2011. ington, D.C.

Ex Officio Members

Hon. William P. Rogers, Secretary of State, Washington, D.C.. (202) 632-9630.
Hon. George P. Shultz, Secretary of the Treasury, Washing-
ton, D.C.

(202) 964-2533.

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January 1973.

September 1972.
January 1973.
February 1973.

February 1971.

July 1969.

September 1971.

July 1969.
June 1972.
February 1973.

June 1972.
January 1971.

Hon. Elliot L. Richardson, Secretary of Defense, Washington,
D.C.

(202) OX5–5261..

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February 1973.

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AMERICAN REVOLUTION BICENTENNIAL COMMISSION-Continued

MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION

Telephone

Date of appointment

Public Members:

Dr. Frank Angel, president, New Mexico Highlands University, (505) 425-7511, extension 229... April 1972.
Administration Bldg., Las Vegas, N. Mex.

Mr. Kenneth L. Beale, Jr., 1460 Limekiln Pike, Jarrettown, Pa. (215) MI6-4129.
Mr. James Biddle, president, National Trust for Historic (202) 382-3304.
Preservation, 748 Jackson Pl. NW., Washington, D.C.

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July 1969.

April 1972.

Mr. Roy Lavon Brooks, 400 Whitney Ave., New Haven, Conn.. (203) 776-2703-
Mr. James S. Copley, chairman of the corporation, Copley
Newspapers, 7776 Ivanhoe Ave., La Jolla, Calif.
Dr. Luther H. Foster, president, Tuskegee Institute, Tuskegee
Institute, Ala.

(714) 454-0411.

July 1969.

(205) 727-8501.

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Miss Thomasine Ruth Hill, 1632 East Hedrick Dr., Apartment 3,
Tucson, Ariz.

(602) 881-2338..

April 1972.

Mrs. Ann Hawkes Hutton, 6900 North Radcliffe St., Bristol,
Pa.

(215) 493-4076_

July 1969.

(217) 224-2006.

Mr. George M. Irwin, 428 Maine St., Quincy, III..

Hon. Erik Jonsson, 3300 Republic National Bank Tower, Dal- (214) 742-7341.
las, Tex.

Mr. Vernon E. Jordan, Jr., executive director, National Urban...
League, 55 East 52d St., New York, N.Y.

(212) 751-0300..

Miss Judith L. Kooker, 21 Rue Dauphine, Paris 6o, France.. Paris 325-41-00..

April 1970.
December 1969.

April 1972.

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Mr. George Lang, The George Lang Corp., 160 Central Park, (212) Ci 7-0300, extension M-93 July 1969.
South, New York, N.Y.

Hon. John O. Marsh, Jr., 1701 Pennsylvania Ave., NW., Suite
1120, Washington, D.C.

Prof. Richard P. McCormick, Department of History, Rutgers,
The State University, New Brunswick, N.J.

Mr. Thomas W. Moore, President, Tomorrow Entertainment, Inc.,
777 Third Ave., New York, N.Y.

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Chairman DONOHUE. I note that it doesn't mention anything by way of representations of political parties.

Mr. O'NEILL. Yes, sir, that is correct.

Chairman DONOHUE. Why doesn't it so state in your statement? Mr. O'NEILL. Sir, there are a lot of things that are not provided in the legislation that I didn't stipulate in my statement. I think there is an important reason why we haven't said that there should be a particular mix of political representation on the Advisory Board. That is because we believe that this is essentially nonpartisan. The people appointed to the Board should be appointed on the basis of their ability to help the Administrator make this a meaningful celebration.

Chairman DONOHUE. Now, the original Commission was set up in what, 1966?

Mr. SKORA. Yes, sir.

Chairman DONOHUE. The second Commission was set up when? Mr. SKORA. The second Commission?

Chairman DONOHUE. The succeeding Commission.

Mr. SKORA. The resignations were submitted by the original appointees to President Johnson prior to President Nixon's election. Chairman DONOHUE. How many of the members of the first Commission resigned?

Mr. SKORA. All submitted their resignations.

Chairman DONOHUE. Can you tell the committee whether that was at the request of the President or were those resignations submitted voluntarily?

Mr. SKORA. It is my understanding that the then Commission members decided on their own initiative to submit their resignations to the then chairman, Mr. Hummelsige, prior to the election, sir. Regardless of who would be President, the new President would have an opportunity to reconsider the appointments.

Chairman DONOHUE. And those were submitted prior to the election?

Mr. SKORA. Yes.

Chairman DONOHUE. I am wondering if any one of you members may comment on the criticisms that were levied at the Commission that appeared in the Washington Post and in other newspapers within the last 6 months. Would you care to comment on them? Mr. O'NEILL. I don't know that I care to offer any remarks on newspaper accounts; no, sir.

Chairman DONOHUE. I would have expected you to say there was no basis for those criticisms.

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Mr. MANN. Mr. Chairman, I have one question. Referring back to the chairman's earlier line of questioning, on the specific authorization programs, I think we can agree that it is a worthy direction to stimulate and encourage appropriate and private authorities and organizations to assume operational responsibility. That is where the action is. But I am wondering if we have given proper recognition to the States in this legislation.

We set up a system for the allocation of grants made to States from nonappropriated funds, but we have given them absolutely no assurance that they will get any money as opposed to some other nonprofit action agency. Neither have we made it possible and I would like a technical opinion on this-for the Commission or Administrator to include in his annual budget a request for funds for direct allocation to States. Now, this action with reference to authorization to allocate nonappropriated funds, implies that he does not have the right to allocate appropriated funds. The general authorization, on the other hand, would appear to perhaps make that a possible discretion of Congress and the appropriating process. Do you think it is authorized under the bill?

Mr. O'NEILL. No, sir, I don't think it is authorized.
Mr. MANN. Appropriated funds.

Mr. O'NEILL. I think we would like to follow through with a provision of the earlier bill that indicated that there was going to be a specific grant amount made available, and that was going to be the end of it. We do not believe we should be making grants of appropriated funds.

Mr. MANN. All right, so even though you indicated earlier that as much as $40,000 may be available to the States, it wasn't meant to imply the States are going to get that money.

Mr. O'NEILL. It is an automatic flow of funds. It just depends on the receipt of revenues and donations.

Mr. MANN. Yes, all right. Another item disturbs me a little bit in that same connection. Those of us who have had experience with church budgets know how difficult it is to handle designated donations. In this case, you have provided, or the bill provides, designated donations given for specific purposes, specific organizations, specific States; for example, even though the word is "may," I think there is a strong implication that would just be a following through of funds by the discretion of the Administrator to match those funds. Of course, based on the further condition that the receiving agency or State match those funds.

Mr. O'NEILL. Yes, sir.

Mr. MANN. In spite of my interest in both the old and new federalism of allowing States to take initiative, I can see here the possibility of discriminatory allocations of funds based on designated donations, whatever the motivation might be, and a great disparity in the funds that actually become available to the States and local governments.

I can see also the discretion of the Administrator to handle the general funds in a compensatory fashion, not that he would, but somehow I can't-we don't want to limit donations. I agree.

Mr. O'NEILL. Right.

Mr. MANN. But it disturbs me somewhat that we have an economic question here. South Carolina is not the richest State in the Union nor does it have the largest number of citizens. I can see that donations that would be specified for South Carolina, for example, are not as likely to equal those specified by the corporate home offices in New York State. So this causes me some concern. Do you have any response to that?

Mr. SKORA. We have very little experience to date, Mr. Congressman, with this provision. This authority was just passed by the Congress in October of last year. But I might point out that with matching grants without the equivalent contribution, the first program that was announced by the Commission for this fiscal year had the lion's share over $2 million for the States, and approximately $60,000 earmarked for nonprofit organizations.

Mr. MANN. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

Mr. GOODSPEED. Also, I might add, Mr. Congressman that the $2 million plus was on an equal basis, share and share alike for all 50 States.

Mr. MANN. This year.

Mr. GOODSPEED. Yes.

Chairman DONOHUE. Mr. Danielson.

Mr. DANIELSON. I have two questions and one observation. My colleague Mr. Moorhead, I believe, indicated he would like to have the proposed budget for 1974 in the record. I don't know if it was received but I hope it will be.

Mr. O'NEILL. I have it here and I will submit it, sir.

Chairman DONOHUE. Without objection, it will be made part of the record.

[Document referred to follows:]

HISTORICAL AND MEMORIAL COMMISSIONS

AMERICAN REVOLTUION BICENTENNIAL COMMISSION

SALARIES AND EXPENSES

For expenses to carry out the provi-
sions of the Act of July 4, 1966
(Public Law 89-491), as amended, es-
stablishing the American Revolution
Bicentennial Commission

$7,100,000.

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