Mr. GURNEY. Except you have been doing the coordinating already, have you not? Mr. KNOTT. Yes; I was going to say what we really have been doing so far is working with agencies in the development of a schedule. This is a Federal supply schedule from which Federal agencies may order. Agencies have participated in all of those discussions and have been as much a part of the negotiations, of course, as we have been. Mr. GURNEY. I think that answers my questions. Mr. BROOKS. Thank you, Mr. Gurney. I want to say, Mr. Knott, we deeply appreciate you and your fine staff being here. Mr. KNOTT. Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. Mr. BROOKS. I want to announce in the morning at 10 a.m. we will hear from representatives from NASA, from the AEC, and from the Commerce Department. Without objection, the subcommittee stands adjourned until 10 a.m. tomorrow in this same place. (Whereupon, at 4 p.m., the subcommittee was recessed, to be reconvened at 10 a.m., Wednesday, March 31, 1965.) AUTOMATIC DATA PROCESSING EQUIPMENT WEDNESDAY, MARCH 31, 1965 HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES, GOVERNMENT ACTIVITIES SUBCOMMITTEE OF THE COMMITTEE ON GOVERNMENT OPERATIONS, Washington, D.C. The subcommittee met at 10:15 a.m., pursuant to recess, in room 2203, Rayburn Office Building, Hon. Jack Brooks (chairman of the subcommittee) presiding. Present: Representatives Jack Brooks, William S. Moorhead, David S. King., Dante B. Fascell, and Edward J. Gurney. Staff members present: Ernest C. Baynard, staff administrator; William M. Jones, counsel; Roland J. Williams, investigator; W. David Allred, investigator; Irma Reel, clerk; and Lynne Higginbotham, clerk. Mr. BROOKS. The Government Activities Subcommittee having been duly organized under the rules of the House of Representatives and a quorum being present, for the purpose of taking testimony and receiving evidence, the meeting is hereby called to order. Before we begin our hearing today, I would like to extend again the invitation to individuals or organizations having an interest in this legislation to either testify or to submit a written statement to the subcommittee. As of this time, the subcommittee has only been contacted by two individuals. Yet, according to subcommittee records, certain organizations in the Defense industry have in the past been severely critical of this type of legislation in correspondence to other congressional committees and executive organizations. The subcommittee, as in the past, will consider the interests and the operations of all parties which might be affected by this legislation in our evaluation of its provisions. We want an effective, efficient, workable program for Government ADP management penalizing or compromising no organization either in or out of Government. I must concede, however, that it will be viewed with the deepest concern if those who may have objection to this legislation avoid giving us the benefit of their views and yet take a negative approach toward H.R. 4845 at some later point in its consideration. For this reason, I again extend the subcommittee's invitation and I can assure any organization or individual that shares their views with us that any constructive criticism or suggestions will be welcomed and will be given the utmost consideration in the framing of the legislation to be recommended to the House. Our next witness is Mr. Edmond C. Buckley of the National Aeronautics and Space Administration. Mr. Buckley has a distinguished record of service with the Government, dating back to the early 1930's, and we are very pleased to have him with us today. 95 Mr. Buckley, would you introduce at this time the associates you have brought with you? STATEMENT OF EDMOND C. BUCKLEY, DIRECTOR, OFFICE OF TRACKING AND DATA ACQUISITION, NATIONAL AERONAUTICS AND SPACE ADMINISTRATION; ACCOMPANIED BY THOMAS V. LUCAS, DIRECTOR OF PROGRAM COORDINATION AND RESOURCES MANAGEMENT; AND KENNETH WEBSTER, STAFF ASSISTANT FOR ADVANCED SYSTEMS Mr. BUCKLEY. Mr. Chairman, I have with me today Mr. Thomas V. Lucas, the Director of Program Coordination and Resources Management in my Office, and Mr. Kenneth Webster, staff assistant for advanced systems in my Office, which includes ADP. Mr. BROOKS. Your statement is submitted for the record at this point. Will you proceed with those portions of it that you feel are particularly significant. (Mr. Buckley's prepared statement follows:) STATEMENT OF EDMOND C. BUCKLEY, DIRECTOR, OFFICE OF TRACKING AND DATA ACQUISITION, NATIONAL AERONAUTICS AND SPACE ADMINISTRATION NASA'S OBJECTIVES Mr. Chairman and members of the committee, the National Aeronautics and Space Act of 1958, as amended, provides that NASA shall— "(1) Conduct research into problems of flight within and outside the earth's atmosphere with a view to their practical solution; "(2) Conduct such activities as may be required for the exploration, scientific investigation, and utilization of space for peaceful purposes, and develop space vehicles for use in such activities; "(3) Arrange for participation by the scientific community in planning scientific measurements and observations to be made through use of aeronautical and space vehicles, and conduct or arrange for the conduct of such measurements and observations; and "(4) Provide for the widest practicable and appropriate dissemination of information concerning its activities and the results thereof." THE EVOLUTION OF NASA The 1958 Space Act created the National Aeronautics and Space Administration in October of that year. NASA was initially created by the transfer of elements of other Federal departments and agencies. The nucleus of NASA was the former National Advisory Committee for Aeronautics (NACA). The Vanguard project and upper atmospheric research groups were transferred to NASA from the Navy. The Jet Propulsion Laboratory and the Development Operations Division, Army Ballistic Missile Agency, headed by Dr. Wernher Von Braun, were transferred from the Army. On October 1, 1958, NASA had a staff of 8,400 and a budget of $335 million. The NASA budget now before the Congress provides for a staff of 33,000 (exclusive of the Jet Propulsion Laboratory) and $5.2 billion. PRESENT ORGANIZATION STRUCTURE The present NASA organization structure is shown in exhibit 1. The chart shows both the headquarters offices and the field installations under their respective institutional directors. The bulk of the NASA personnel (31,082 out of the total manpower strength of 33,108) are in the field installations where the research and development activities are carried on either directly or through contractors. |