of like trainers being performed by that same contractor. Schedule, design, development, and cost risks with any other contractor, at this stage, are considered unmanageable from standpoint of government interest and needs of the service.

Senator GOLDWATER. How do you pay for ECP's during manufacture of the item when the contract is firm fixed price? Does each ECP require separate negotiation and contract change?

Commander NORRINGTON. FFP contract will include a "changes" provision, which separately negotiates changes as the government may require, incorporating installation before or after delivery.

QUESTIONS SUBMITTED BY SEnator Barry GOLDWATER, ANSWERS SUPPLIED BY THE DEPARTMENT OF THE ARMY

R. & D. CONTRACTS

Senator GOLDWATER. How does Army handle its research and development contracts for flight simulators and related activities? Is this done through NTEC? Colonel LAUDER. The Army Project Manager is free to perform R&D activities in any appropriate fashion. Currently, aviation R&D activities are being conducted both under contract with private industry and in the NTEC laboratories.

FLIGHT HOUR PROGRAM

Senator GOLDWATER. Have the number of flight hours flown by the Army been reducing over the past several years as increased numbers of flight simulators have been brought into the inventory? For the record, provide a chart or graph that shows this relationship.

Colonel LAUDER. The decrease in flight hours cannot be solely attributed to the use of flight simulators. In 1976, the Army eliminated proficiency flying. Congressional budget cuts in fiscal year 1977 added to the flying hour reduction. In fiscal year 1978 the Army initiated the event oriented Air Crew Training Manuals in an effort to provide a more combat ready aviator force. This concept resulted in an increased flying hour requirement. The higher level of flying is offset, to a great extent, through the use of flight simulation. An overview of Army flying and simulator usage is as follows:

Senator GOLDWATER. What is the value of the Black Hawk flight simulator contract? (UH-60)

Colonel LAUDER. The prototype UH-60 Flight Simulator, having both a camera model visual system and a Computer Image Generation System, is being developed under a Fixed Price Incentive contract. The target price of the contract is $10,581,212.

Senator GOLDWATER. What is the expected IOC for the Black Hawk simulator? Colonel LAUDER. The expected IOC for the fiscal year 1980 planned procurement will be in the third quarter fiscal year 1982 at Ft. Campbell, Ky.

Senator GOLDWATER. When will Army make the decision as to whether the Black Hawk simulator will have a camera model or DIG visual system?

Colonel LAUDER. The Army will make the decision on whether either a camera model board or a computer image generated visual display will be on the production models at the Development Acceptance In Process Review held after the completion of DT/OT II.

AH-1 FWS

Senator GOLDWATER. What is the planned procurement and cost schedule for the AH-1 Flight and Weapons Simulator system?

Colonel LAUDER. The Army Acquisition Objective (AAO) for the AH-1 FWS is six. The Army plans to procure two devices in fiscal year 1979 for $21.8 million and two in fiscal year 1980 for $22.6 million. Additional procurement is planned to meet the AAO. The prototype device at Ft. Rucker is used to meet the AAO. Senator GOLDWATER. What model of the AH-1 will this FWS replicate? Colonel LAUDER. The AH-1 FWS procurement will be in the AH-1S configuration although the prototype device was in the AH-1Q configuration. The prototype will be reconfigured to an AH-18 configuration at a later date.

Senator GOLDWATER. What are the reliability requirements for this system? (AH-1)

Colonel LAUDER. Contract reliability requirements, based on mission reliability, are: Specified Mean Time Between Failure of 50 hours; Minimum Acceptable Mean Time Between Failure of 25 hours. A mission failure is deemed to have occurred if there are three or more interruptions in a 1.5 hour training flight or if more than 15 minutes of training time is lost due to simulator component failures.

Senator GOLDWATER. What are the availability requirements planned for the contract? (AH-1)

Colonel LAUDER. The AH-1 FWS availability requirement is 90 percent based on a 16-hour training day, 5 days per week.

Senator GOLDWATER. What are the military construction funds required to support the two FWS requested this year?

Colonel LAUDER. The Military Construction Army (MCA) funds required to support the two AH-1 FWS's planned for procurement in fiscal year 1979 are programmed for fiscal year 1980 due to the device production time required before the simulators can be installed in the buildings. The facility at Ft. Campbell, Ky., to house the AH-1 FWS is also planned to house a CH-47 FS and an UH-60 FS. The MCA funds planned for this facility are $4.3 million. The facility at Ft. Hood, Tex., to house the other AH-1 FWS will also house a CH-47FS. The MCA funds planned for the Ft. Hood facility are $3.1 million. Senator GOLDWATER. What type of contract is planned for the AH-1 FWS? Colonel LAUDER. A Fixed Price Incentive Contract is planned for procurement of the AH-1 FWS.

AH-64 FWS

Senator GOLDWATER. Will the Navy Training Equipment Center be the Army's agent for the entire development and procurement program for the AH-64 FWS? Colonel LAUDER. The development and procurement of the AH-64 Flight and Weapons Simulator will be managed by the Army Project Manager for Training Devices, who will draw team members from both Army and NTEC resources. For example, the project director, comptroller, cost validator, contractor performance analyst, configuration management officer, data manager, manager of product assurance and test, and integrated logistics support manager and contract negotiatior are all Army PM Trade employees. The project engineer, visual engineer, motion engineer, and the various logistics specialists are NTEC employees, but accountable to the Army project director for their performance as members of the project team.

Senator GOLDWATER. Will the contract for the AH-64 FWS expected to be awarded in the fall of 1979 be based solely on Army's evaluation of conceptual proposals submitted by contractors?

Colonel LAUDER. The award of the contract, planned for the fourth quarter fiscal year 1979, for the development of a prototype AH-64 FWS will be based on technical and cost proposals submitted in response to the RFP. The specification which will be issued with the RFP draws upon some of the concepts de

scribed in the three design approach studies procured in fiscal year 1977, but is not limited to the results of those studies.

Senator GOLDWATER. How many contractors will proceed into the prototype development program? (AH-64 FWS)

Colonel LAUDER. It is planned to award the development contract to one contractor. The competition will be open to all qualified offerors, and not limited to those who earlier performed design approach studies.

Senator GOLDWATER. What are your cost estimates to complete the prototype test program? (AH-64 FWS)

Colonel LAUDER. The cost of developing and testing the prototype AH-64 FWS is estimated to be $21.5 million.

Senator GOLDWATER. What do you see as the highest risk item with the AH-64 FWS?

Colonel LAUDER. The higher risk elements of the AH-64 FWS include the wide field of view visual system with resolution to enable target acquisition at extended ranges, simulation of the visionics systems of the aircraft and integrating their displays with the out-of-the-window display, and simulation of the enemy threat.

CH-47 FS

Senator GOLDWATER. What availability requirements will be asked for this FS? (CH-47 Flight Simulator)

Colonel LAUDER. Availability requirement for the CH-47 FS is 90 percent based upon a 16 hour training day, 5 days a week.

Senator GOLDWATER. What are the military construction funds required to support the FS requested this year? (CH-47 FS).

Colonel LAUDER. The Army is requesting $1.7 million in fiscal year 1979 to construct a building in Europe to house the planned procurement of one CH—7 FS in fiscal year 1979.

Senator GOLDWATER. What are the reliability requirements? (CH-47 FS) Colonel LAUDER. Contract reliability requirements based upon mission reliability are a specified Mean Time Between Failure of 50 hours and a minimum acceptable Mean Time Between Failure of 25 hours.

Senator GOLDWATER. What are the planned contractual arrangements for this flight simulator? Is this going to be an open competition or a follow-on to the prototype or lead simulator contract? (CH-47 FS)

Colonel LAUDER. The competition for the prototype CH-47 FS contract was won by the Singer Company. The follow-on procurement contract will be placed with this contractor.

[Whereupon, at 12:40 p.m., the hearing was adjourned, the subcommittee to reconvene at the call of the chair.

DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE AUTHORIZATION FOR APPROPRIATIONS FOR FISCAL YEAR 1979

TUESDAY, APRIL 18, 1978

U.S. SENATE,

SUBCOMMITTEE ON GENERAL LEGISLATION
OF THE COMMITTEE ON ARMED SERVICES,

Washington, D.C.

DEFENSE CIVIL PREPAREDNESS AGENCY

The subcommittee met, pursuant to notice, at 9:35 a.m., in room 224, Russell Senate Office Building, Hon. John C. Culver (chairman) presiding.

Present: Senator Culver.

Also present: Larry K. Smith, professional staff member; Rhett B. Dawson, counsel; and Fran Frazier, clerical assistant; Charles Stevenson, assistant to Senator Culver; John Stirk, assistant to Senator Morgan; Peter Gold, assistant to Senator Hart; and David M. Fitzgerald, assistant to Senator Garn.

OPENING STATEMENT BY SENATOR JOHN C. CULVER, CHAIRMAN Senator CULVER. The subcommittee will come to order.

This morning the Subcommittee on General Legislation will consider the budget request for the Defense Civil Preparedness Agency. Last year, when this subcommittee assumed jurisdiction over DCPA funding, I suggested that we proceed logically by first defining the threat and the role of civil defense in our national strategy, then deciding upon a prudent policy in response; and, finally, organizing the Government so as to implement that policy.

Over the past year, the subcommittee examined the organization, budget, and functioning of DCPA, as well as the nature and extent of Soviet civil defense programs.

These issues, of course, have also been under lengthy and detailed consideration within the executive branch. Obviously, crucial decisions are needed if the administration is going to have a logical, coherent, and effective civil defense policy and program. Congress will want to evaluate that program in relation to our other national needs. Recent press reports and internal bureaucratic rumblings suggest that we are on the brink of significant decisions. If so, then the Congress needs to know what policy the President is adopting and whether the many pieces of this complex puzzle actually fit together.

These questions are especially timely because of the pending deadlines for committee decisions on the budget.

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Our witnesses today are the Director and the Deputy Director of DCPA, Bardyl Tirana and Clifford McLain, and Gen. James M. Thompson, Director of Policy, Plans, and NSC Affairs under the Assistant Secretary of Defense for International Security Affairs. We shall proceed in open session. If at any time it is necessary to discuss matters which are of a classified nature, we will make a determination whether to reserve those questions until the end of the hearing or to go into executive session immediately.

We have time problems this morning because of a number of votes on the Panama Canal, beginning at 10 o'clock. I would appreciate it if you would just highlight your prepared statement so that we will have as much time as possible for questions. Thank you.

Mr. Tirana?

STATEMENT OF BARDYL R. TIRANA, DIRECTOR, DEFENSE CIVIL PREPAREDNESS AGENCY, ACCOMPANIED BY CLIFFORD E. MCLAIN, DEPUTY DIRECTOR; DONALD A. THOMPSON, COMPTROLLER; AND JOHN W. McCONNELL, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR FOR PLANS AND OPERATIONS

Mr. TIRANA. Yes, Mr. Chairman, I would like to pick up from where we left off on the oversight hearing.

We discussed three studies being conducted within the executive branch, I indicated that those studies would be coordinated and completed, hopefully by February, in time for the fiscal year 1979 appropriations and authorization hearings. You asked me: "Why three studies, wouldn't just one do, and how are you going to get them all done at once?" and I indicated that they would be done.

You said that, "hope springs eternal," or "faith springs eternal.” Well, the fact of the matter is that one study has been completed, that is, the internal Department of Defense study, on civil defense program options.

The NSC-directed study has not been completed. General Thompson can address that.

The President's reorganization study has been completed. I know that it has reached OMB Director McIntyre. Whether he has transmitted it to the President, I do not know. I have not seen the latest draft.

In my prepared statement, I touch on a fiscal 1978 reprograming request. One of the items that our agency has tried to do is restructure and study how we might more effectively design and implement a civil defense program in the United States. We know that much of what we have been doing does not make sense when compared to present and foreseeable threats. Therefore, I have asked for authority to reprogram $6.01 million in fiscal 1978 RSSM funds into research and development, so that we will have a good ground for implementing whatever decisions are made by the President and the Congress.

The 1979 budget request would essentially maintain the existing level of emphasis on civil defense, with a significantly heavier emphasis on research and development than in the past. It is $96.5 million. There is very little program increase in that amount. Basically, the increase is in inflation.