We have some types of machines that we are able to buy on a price basis. Other rental examples would be the Remington card-punching machines, mail equipment which we have to rent and which puts air-mail stamps on letters, for example, the Recordac machine, which is a machine that takes a picture of a piece of paper when you want to microfilm. Those kinds of equipment are all rented.

PRINTING AND REPRODUCTION

Senator MCCARRAN. All right, let us go now to printing and reproduction. That is an item in which you have asked for an increase. Mr. WRIGHT. Mr. Thompson, will you speak to that, sir?

Senator MCCARRAN. Tell us why there is the increase requested, if you please.

Mr. WILBER. Mr. Thompson, the Chief of the Publications Division, is here to discuss this item, Mr. Chairman.

Senator MCCARRAN. I take it we may get the same answer in this instance, that there has been an increase in the cost of paper and printing and so forth? Is that about it?

Mr. HUMELSINE. That is about right. Then there are some additional items. That is one point, Senator. Mr. Thompson will explain this item.

Mr. THOMPSON. A considerable portion of that increase is due to our desire to put the foreign relations volumes and the German war documents volumes on a pay-as-you-go basis. In other words, as we were discussing here this morning, we are trying to close the gap, that 17year gap in our publication of the foreign relations volumes.

If these additional funds are supplied us, we can send materials. that are now ready for publication to the Government Printing Office for publication.

Senator MCCARRAN. What item on page 228 covers that?

Mr. THOMPSON. That comes under the heading of documentation where you have the plus $59,914.

Senator MCCARRAN. That is to pick up some of the volumes that you have not yet printed?

Mr. THOMPSON. That is right; yes, sir.

Mr. WILBER. On page 232, at the top of the page, there is a rather complete outline of the volumes that are presently in the Government Printing Office and those that are ready to go there.

Chairman MCKELLAR. Now, as to those books that have been testified to this morning, there is no reason in the world why they cannot be printed next year just as well as this year. Why do you want an increase of $59,914 to publish those books when we are at war and we need every dollar we can get and when we are paying the biggest taxes ever paid by any nation in the world?

Mr. THOMPSON. Mr. Chairman, those volumes are used every day by officers in both the Foreign Service and the domestic services of the Department of State. If we did not have those volumes to refer to, we would have a great mass of papers that would have to be gone through in order to get any kind of a correct picture, shall we say, of what our relations were with the American Republics in the year 1934. Here it is all brought together in a single convenient volume which we use as a business book just the same as any lawyer, for example, would use the various legal volumes in the conduct of his business.

In addition, of course, to that, these volumes are invaluable to scholars throughout the United States who are interested in foreign relations.

Senator ELLENDER. They are sold to them, are they not?

Mr. THOMPSON. Those are sold at $3 each.

Senator MCCARRAN. That does not come anywhere near paying the cost of them, does it?

Mr. THOMPSON. Nothing like the complete printing cost, Senator. Chairman McKELLAR. What do they cost?

Mr. THOMPSON. The cost is $3 each.

Chairman McKELLAR. I mean, for the cost of printing each volume. Mr. THOMPSON. The cost of printing the volumes—and this is an estimate because it varies with the size of the volume-will run approximately $11,200 per volume. These are extensive volumes. There are a lot of pages in each one.

Chairman MCKELLAR. And how many copies are printed of each volume?

Mr. THOMPSON. About 3,700 copies are printed for the entire run.
Senator ELLENDER. And they are sold at $3 a volume?

Mr. WILBER. That is the price established by the Government Printing Office when they sell them, and that represents slightly more than their actual printing cost.

CONTRACTUAL SERVICES

Senator MCCARRAN. All right. Will you go to the contractual services and tell us what that embraces?

Mr. WRIGHT. On the contractual services, sir, can I give you a breakdown of the items that go into that?

It is on page 235 of the justifications. We have there the Public Buildings Services item which we must reimburse the Public Buildings Services for; the repair of office and reproduction machines, contractual services in connection with the United States National Commission for UNESCO, the repairs of duplicating equipment, stenographic reporting which is used when our court reporters are overloaded and we have some nonsecret item as to which we can go out and contract for reporters, automobile maintenance, translating services that cannot be taken care of in the regular language services division, foreign service examination, the microfilming of the German war documents, a pro rata share of the Air Coordinating Committee, and some other items, for which we are asking a total of $316,578.

Chairman MCKELLAR. Does anybody have the right to pay out these sums for these services, any officer in the Department? Who does it? Mr. WRIGHT. That is all under my jurisdiction, sir.

Chairman McKELLAR. Do you look after all of it?

Mr. WRIGHT. The Division of Central Services, where we have the procurement authority of the State Department, does the actual spending. They are under my supervision.

Senator MCCARRAN. And it is paid for by check and voucher?
Mr. WILBER. Yes, sir.

Mr. HUMELSINE. Actually we get a contract on everything except the very small items. We put out requests for bids, and we accept the lowest bid.

Chairman MCKELLAR. I want you to look over these items and see where would be the best place to cut, where we could reduce in the best way.

Mr. WRIGHT. Yes, sir.

(The information requested appears on p. 1506.)

FIFTY-TWO-WEEK BASE; WITHIN-GRADE SALARY ADVANCEMENTS; AND PERSONAL SERVICE LAPSES

Senator MCCARRAN. The next item we come to is the item which has to do with the excess of the 52-week base, the within-grade salary advancements, and personal service lapses. What page is that? I guess we understand what is meant by the 52-week base.

Mr. HUMELSINE. That is the leap-year pay.

Senator MCCARRAN. Yes. That is page 219, I believe.

We have the within-grade salary advancement item up as one item under Mr. Humelsine's testimony.

Going to personal service lapses, what is meant by that?
Mr. HUMELSINE. Mr. Wilber will answer that.

Mr. WILBER. That is the difference between an annual salary rate and the actual amount paid to employees by reason of their not being on duty for a full year. In other words, there is a gap between the beginning of the year and the time you recruit a person at a particular grade and he reports for duty. That is what we refer to as a lapse saving.

Senator MCCARRAN. That is not paid out?

Mr. WILBER. That is not paid out, and we make a deduction for it here as a lapse item, so that we are asking you for the actual amount we will require.

Senator MCCARRAN. I see.

NEW LANGUAGE REQUEST

I notice that under the appropriation item of "Salaries and expenses," you have requested new language which would authorize the purchase of four busses. What do you need these busses for, and what will they cost?

Mr. WRIGHT. The Department of State is currently forced to occupy over 25 office buildings. They are so far spread that it would take some times as much as 45 minutes to get from one to another by public transportation.

Senator MCCARRAN. Are those here? You mean here in Washington?

Mr. WRIGHT. Yes, sir, right here in Washington. We have better than 25 office buildings.

Mr. HUMELSINE. An example of that, Senator, we have the Far Eastern Commission located in the old Japanese Embassy, and that is way out, as you know, on Massachusetts Avenue. Those people have dealings with our Office of Far Eastern Affairs in the main State Building at Twenty-first and Virginia Avenue. That is just one example.

Mr. WRIGHT. Senator, all of the witnesses who are here before you occupy different buildings in the Department of State. I happen to know where all of them are located because space is one of my prob

lems. Each one of these people occupies a different building. Mr. Humelsine is the only one in the so-called main building which will only house, crowded as it is, less than 2,000 people. So we are forced to go into temporary buildings, into converted apartment houses. I personally occupy very nice space, but it is in a temporary building built for the First World War, built in 1917.

Senator MCCARRAN. Where is that, on Constitution Avenue?

Mr. WRIGHT. That is down on Virginia Avenue at the Twentieth Street temporary building, Temporary Building No. 2, across from the old Washington Auditorium.

We need busses, sir, to improve the efficiency of our employees so as to enable them to get from one building to another.

Senator MCCARRAN. How would you operate the busses?

Mr. WRIGHT. We would make a run and would go from one large building to another in a logical sequence-that is, the State Department buildings. We would go around them in a regular schedule. Senator MCCARRAN. On a regular schedule?

Mr. WRIGHT. Yes, sir.

Mr. HUMELSINE. In other words, if someone out in the Japanese Embassy wants to come in and see Mr. Rusk, they would know what the schedule was, and they could make the appointment conform with the bus schedule. We feel that that would provide a real saving to the Government because we do not want to have people here to whom we are paying good salaries spending an hour and a half of their time getting back and forth when they could make the trip in a shorter period of time and get their business over with, thus making them more productive.

Chairman MCKELLAR. You would not go to their homes and pick them up?

Mr. HUMELSIN. No, sir.

Chairman MCKELLAR. Or take them home?

Mr. HUMELSINE. No, sir. If we found anyone doing that, we would fire him.

Senator MCCARRAN. They get from their homes to their office or place of occupation by their own means, by their own conveyance; do they not?

Mr. HUMELSINE. Everyone except the Secretary of State, who is furnished with a car.

Senator ELLENDER. How do you handle the transportation of your employees now from one office to another?

Mr. HUMELSINE. At the present time, I think we have one bus.
Mr. WRIGHT. Yes; we have one bus on a leased basis.

Senator ELLENDER. You found it is better to do that than to have them hire taxicabs?

Mr. WRIGHT. Yes, indeed, sir.

Chairman McCKELLAR. The busses would be much cheaper. How much do you want for this purpose?

COST OF BUSSES

Mr. WRIGHT. The cost of these busses, sir, is $15,000.

Senator ELLENDER. Is that $15,000 each?

Mr. WRIGHT. No; that is the total for all four.

Senator ELLENDER. Now, you are going to have to have an operator for each bus, and then you are going to have to provide the gasoline. Mr. WRIGHT. That is correct, sir. But, on the other hand, we have a small fleet of cars that we use in trying to transport officials from one building to another in order to save time. To run a bus would be a great deal more economical.

Senator ELLENDER. What are you going to do with that small fleet of cars?

Mr. WRIGHT. We cannot dispose of them entirely, sir, but we will not ask for additional cars.

Chairman MCKELLAR. Will you dispense with any of them?

Mr. WRIGHT. As long as we are forced to occupy so many buildings, Senator, we are up against a rather difficult situation.

Chairman MCKELLAR. You have a tremendous job in trying to find space to house your employees.

Mr. WRIGHT. That is right, Senator.

Chairman MCKELLAR. You have so many employees.

Mr. WRIGHT. That is correct, sir.

Mr. WILBER. Mr. Chairman, we are not asking for additional drivers, however, for these busses. It is planned to absorb that requirement by the existing staff.

PASSENGER CARS AVAILABLE

Senator ELLENDER. Well, how many cars do you employ for this purpose now?

Mr. WILBER. Mr. Wright, do you know?

Mr. WRIGHT. Do you mean passenger cars?

Senator ELLENDER. The passenger cars transporting your person-
nel from one office in Washington to another.
Mr. WRIGHT. There are about a dozen cars.
Senator ELLENDER. And you want four busses?

Mr. WRIGHT. We want these busses because we turn down about 40 percent of all the requests we receive to haul people-for instance, to the Pentagon to confer with the Department of Defense people or to the Department of Commerce, the Department of Agriculture. We turn down about 40 percent of all of the requests that come to us day in and day out. That is our average turn-down.

Senator ELLENDER. Why do you turn them down?

Mr. WRIGHT. Because we do not have facilities.
Senator ELLENDER. How do they get there?

Mr. WRIGHT. They hire cabs. They walk. They go there in public transportation. They pay their own way.

Senator ELLENDER. Notwithstanding the fact that they are all on official business?

Mr. WRIGHT. That is correct, sir.

Mr. HUMELSINE. To answer Senator McKellar, on this business of taxicabs, even if we were to try to pay the money for taxicab fares, to police that would be practically impossible, we figure, Senator. You would have so much paper work that it would cost you an enormous amount to follow it up.

Chairman McKELLAR. I feel that it is very much cheaper for the ordinary person to go by taxicab.

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