Mr. HUMELSINE. Yes, sir; it is. It is cheaper than owning an automobile.

Senator MCCARRAN. What is the amount you want for these busses? Mr. WRIGHT. $15,000 to buy the four busses.

Senator MCCARRAN. $15,000 will buy the four busses?

Mr. WRIGHT. Yes, sir.

Senator MCCARRAN. What is the life of those busses?

Mr. WRIGHT. I would say that the life of those busses would be 5

or 6 years.

Senator MCCARRAN. How many people will they carry?
Mr. WRIGHT. They will carry 40 persons each.

Senator MCCARRAN. And they would make a continuous circle?
Mr. WRIGHT. That is right.

Senator MCCARRAN. Would they go to the Pentagon?

Mr. WRIGHT. No, sir; not to the Pentagon, as there is not enough travel to justify it-that is, justifying a bus going back and forth. We would use our passenger cars for that purpose.

Senator MCCARRAN. And these busses would touch every one of these buildings occupied by the State Department?

Mr. WRIGHT. Every one where it seemed to be practical, Senator. If there was one building that was remotely situated off from the others and there wasn't too much traffic, we wouldn't waste the gasoline and have the bus run over to that building. But, practically speaking, Senator, the busses would touch all of the buildings.

Chairman McKELLAR. How would you get people to the buildings where it was not practical for the busses to travel?

Mr. WRIGHT. If we had two or three calls a day, it would be cheaper for us to send an automobile over to transport those people rather than to have the bus each time take 20 minutes to make the trip to that building.

Chairman McKELLAR. When you get these busses, do you plan on keeping the busses and the automobiles as well?

Mr. WRIGHT. Senator, we are turning down 40 percent of the requests that we receive for people requesting transportation now. Senator MCCARRAN. And you are not asking for any new automobiles?

Mr. WRIGHT. We are not, and our cars are all 4 and 5 years old. We are taking good care of them, but we are not asking for any

new ones.

Chairman MCKELLAR. I wish you would go over these items and see where the committee can cut with the least harmful effect. (The information requested appears on p. 1506.)

Senator MCCARRAN. We will suspend here, gentlemen, until tomorrow morning at 10: 30, if that is satisfactory.

(Whereupon, at 4 p. m. Wednesday, June 6, 1951, the hearing was recessed until 10: 30 a. m. Monday, June 11, 1951.)

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