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COMBATING TERRORISM: PROTECTING THE
UNITED STATES, PARTS I AND II

HEARINGS

BEFORE THE

SUBCOMMITTEE ON NATIONAL SECURITY,
VETERANS AFFAIRS AND INTERNATIONAL

RELATIONS

OF THE

COMMITTEE ON

GOVERNMENT REFORM

HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

ONE HUNDRED SEVENTH CONGRESS

SECOND SESSION

MARCH 12 AND 21, 2002

Serial No. 107-156

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COMMITTEE ON GOVERNMENT REFORM

DAN BURTON, Indiana, Chairman

BENJAMIN A. GILMAN, New York
CONSTANCE A. MORELLA, Maryland
CHRISTOPHER SHAYS, Connecticut
ILEANA ROS-LEHTINEN, Florida
JOHN M. MCHUGH, New York
STEPHEN HORN, California
JOHN L. MICA, Florida
THOMAS M. DAVIS, Virginia
MARK E. SOUDER, Indiana

STEVEN C. LATOURETTE, Ohio
BOB BARR, Georgia
DAN MILLER, Florida

DOUG OSE, California

RON LEWIS, Kentucky

JO ANN DAVIS, Virginia

TODD RUSSELL PLATTS, Pennsylvania

DAVE WELDON, Florida

CHRIS CANNON, Utah
ADAM H. PUTNAM, Florida
C.L. "BUTCH" OTTER, Idaho
EDWARD L. SCHROCK, Virginia

JOHN J. DUNCAN, JR., Tennessee

HENRY A. WAXMAN, California
TOM LANTOS, California
MAJOR R. OWENS, New York
EDOLPHUS TOWNS, New York
PAUL E. KANJORSKI, Pennsylvania

PATSY T. MINK, Hawaii

CAROLYN B. MALONEY, New York

ELEANOR HOLMES NORTON, Washington, DC

ELIJAH E. CUMMINGS, Maryland

DENNIS J. KUCINICH, Ohio

ROD R. BLAGOJEVICH, Illinois
DANNY K. DAVIS, Illinois

JOHN F. TIERNEY, Massachusetts
JIM TURNER, Texas

THOMAS H. ALLEN, Maine

JANICE D. SCHAKOWSKY, Illinois
WM. LACY CLAY, Missouri

DIANE E. WATSON, California

STEPHEN F. LYNCH, Massachusetts

BERNARD SANDERS, Vermont (Independent)

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CONTENTS

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Caruso, James, Deputy Assistant Director for Counter Terrorism, Federal
Bureau of Investigation, prepared statement of

Cirincione, Joseph, Director, Nonproliferation Project, Carnegie Endow-

ment for International Peace, prepared statement of

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Hinton, Henry L., managing director, Defense Capabilities and Manage-
ment, General Accounting Office, prepared statement of
Keating, Frank, former Governor of Oklahoma, prepared statement of
Larsen, Randall J., director, ANSER Institute for Homeland Security,
prepared statement of

McHale, Stephen, Deputy, Under Secretary, Transportation Security,
Transportation Security Administration, Department of Transportation,
prepared statement of

Meese, Edwin, III, former Attorney General, co-chairman, Homeland Se-
curity Task Force, the Heritage Foundation, prepared statement of
Raub, William, Deputy Director, Office of Public Health Preparedness,
Department of Health and Human Services, prepared statement of
Shays, Hon. Christopher, a Representative in Congress from the State
of Connecticut, prepared statements of..

Verga, Peter, Special Assistant for Homeland Security Office of the Sec-
retary of Defense, prepared statement of

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COMBATING TERRORISM: PROTECTING THE

UNITED STATES, PART I

TUESDAY, MARCH 12, 2002

HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES,

SUBCOMMITTEE ON NATIONAL SECURITY, VETERANS

AFFAIRS AND INTERNATIONAL RELATIONS,

COMMITTEE ON GOVERNMENT REFORM,

Washington, DC.

The subcommittee met, pursuant to notice, at 10:05 a.m., in room 2154, Rayburn House Office Building, Hon. Christopher Shays (chairman of the subcommittee) presiding.

Present: Representatives Shay, Otter, Kucinich and Tierney.

Staff present: Lawrence J. Halloran, staff director and counsel; Dr. R. Nicholas Palarino, senior policy advisor; Thomas Costa, professional staff member; Sherrill Gardner, detailee-fellow; Jason M. Chung, clerk; David Rapallo, minority counsel; and Earley Green, minority assistant clerk.

Mr. SHAYS. I would like to call this hearing on, "Combating Terrorism: Protecting the United States, Part I," to order and welcome our witnesses and our guests.

Yesterday, we paused to remember all of those lost 6 months ago in the deadliest terrorist attack to date within our borders. In the unimaginable horror of those events, we are reminded of another harsh reality, the World Trade Center, the Pentagon, and a field in Shanksville, Pennsylvania, were not the first and will not be the last plots of American ground sanctified by innocent civilian blood.

How prepared are we for the next act of terrorism? Long before the events of September 11, 2001, panels of experts and special commissions identified critically needed actions to improve counterterrorism preparedness and response.

The General Accounting Office, GAO and others, called for timely, integrated threat assessments and a comprehensive national strategy to combat terrorism as early as 1998.

The U.S. Commission on National Security, 21st Century, also called the Hart-Rudman Commission, proposed creation of a cabinet level homeland security department to streamline and consolidate counterterrorism programs spread across more than 40 Federal departments and agencies. Governors and mayors joined the call for better first responder training and improved public health systems.

In the wake of the airline and anthrax attacks last year, air travel has been made somewhat safer, border security strengthened, and medical stockpiles are being augmented. The President created the Office of Homeland Security, and Governor Ridge has as his

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