Mr. WHEELER. That is right. We have here one Paul Radin who was instructor at the California Labor School in 1948.

Mr. RADIN. This is not I.

Mr. WHEELER. We have one Paul Radin who was a member of the League of American Writers in 1938, according to the summer bulletin of that organization.

Mr. RADIN. This is not I.

Mr. WHEELER. We have one Paul Radin who, according to Soviet
Russia Today, which is a magazine, dated September 1939, was a signer
of a letter advocating closer cooperation with the Soviet Union.
Mr. RADIN. To the best of my knowledge this is not I.

Mr. WHEELER. Do you ever recall signing such a letter?
Mr. RADIN. No; I don't recall signing any such thing.

Mr. WHEELER. According to the New Masses, a Communist publication of April 27, 1937, a Paul Radin contributed an article to Science and Society.

Mr. RADIN. This is not I.

Mr. WHEELER. Did you ever live in Washington, D. C.?

Mr. RADIN. No, sir.

Mr. WHEELER. We have a Paul Radin who was a member of the Washington Book Shop.

Mr. RADIN. I never heard of the Washington Book Shop.

Mr. WHEELER. You were never a member?

Mr. RADIN. No; I was never a member.

Mr. WHEELER. Did you ever review any books for the Western Worker?

Mr. RADIN. I have never reviewed any books.

Mr. WHEELER. Mr. Radin, the committee has in its possession testimony from a former member of the Communist Party who testified under oath that you were in attendance at meetings of the Communist Party here in Hollywood. Is that a true statement?

Mr. RADIN. I attended meetings which I believe were Communist Party meetings.

Mr. WHEELER. Were you ever a member of the Communist Party? Mr. RADIN. I was not.

Mr. WHEELER. How many meetings would you say you attended? Mr. RADIN. Since we last spoke I have tried to pinpoint this. To the best of my knowledge, I attended 3 meetings.

Mr. WHEELER. When would you date these meetings?

Mr. RADIN. I would date them in 1946 or 1947. I measure this by the time I met my now present wife. I have been married 4 years,

almost 5.

Mr. WHEELER. What arrangements were made for you to attend the meetings and by whom?

Mr. RADIN. I was brought to the meetings by Joe Losey, who was a friend of mine, social friend.

Mr. WHEELER. How did you first meet Joe Losey?

Mr. RADIN. I think I met him at a party. I am not sure at whose house it was. I was a newcomer to Hollywood at the time.

Mr. WHEELER. Was Mrs. Losey also in attendance?

Mr. RADIN. Where?

Mr. WHEELER. At the meetings you attended.

Mr. RADIN. Yes.

Mr. WHEELER. Do you recall where the meetings were held?

Mr. RADIN. One meeting was held at the home of John Wexley. Another meeting was held at the home of Leo Townsend. The third meeting was held at the home, I believe, of Jay Gorney.

Mr. WHEELER. Do you recall who the individuals were that were in attendance at these meetings?

Mr. RADIN. To the best of my recollection, the following were at the meetings-I don't know whether all of these people attended all the meetings-Mr. and Mrs. Losey, Meta Reis, Lester Cole, Jay Gorney, John Wexley, Dick Collins, Mrs. Gorney, Waldo Salt, Mr. and Mrs. Townsend, John Weber.

Mr. WHEELER. Do you recall if dues were collected at these meetings?

Mr. RADIN. I believe dues were collected at the meetings.

Mr. WHEELER. Did you pay any dues?

Mr. RADIN. I never paid dues.

Mr. WHEELER. Do you recall the individual who collected the dues? Mr. RADIN. No; I do not.

Mr. WHEELER. Do you recall who was chairman of these particular meetings or who was running the meetings?

Mr. RADIN. No; I don't recall. I have a feeling that the leaders of the group-and I don't remember whether they conducted the meetings or not-were Dick Collins and Waldo Salt.

Mr. WHEELER. Were you asked to join the Communist Party? Mr. RADIN. Yes; I was.

Mr. WHEELER. By whom?

Mr. RADIN. By Joe Losey.

Mr. WHEELER. Can you date the approximate time? Was it the first meeting, the second meeting, the third meeting or prior to the time you attended the meetings or subsequently?

Mr. RADIN. I would say that the 3 meetings that I attended were over a period of about 6 weeks. To the best of my recollection, I was asked to join the Communist Party during that time. I don't remember when.

Mr. WHEELER. Well, if it would be prior to the time you attended these meetings, you would have full knowledge of the Communist Party.

Mr. RADIN. No; it was not prior to the attending of the meetings. Mr. WHEELER. You say it was subsequent to the attending of the meetings?

Mr. RADIN. It was during that 6-weeks' period, I believe. It was either after the first meeting or the second meeting.

Mr. WHEELER. Then you, at least, attended 1 or 2 meetings with full knowledge that they were Communist Party meetings?

Mr. RADIN. Yes.

Mr. WHEELER. What was your immediate reaction to being asked to join the Communist Party?

Mr. RADIN. It left me cold. I had no interest in it.

Mr. WHEELER. What would be your reasoning then for attending the meeting subsequent to the time you were asked?

Mr. RADIN. Joe was a friend of mine-I just was not too sure of myself. I didn't want to encourage Joe's displeasure. It wasn't until the third meeting that I knew that I never wanted to have anything to do with it.

Mr. WHEELER. How did you reach this decision?

Mr. RADIN. Sitting at this group or with this group, I was impressed by the lack of independent thinking, by the almost automaton procedure that went on. Also that these people weren't at all interested in the same things I was interested in.

I have always considered myself more or less of a liberal, and this was not my idea of what liberalism was. This was a rigid unequivocal dictatorship of thought. I don't know how else to put it.

Mr. WHEELER. You realized that every person present at this meeting, with the exception of yourself, was a member of the Communist Party?

Mr. RADIN. No, I don't know; to my knowledge, I don't know they were all members of the Communist Party.

Mr. WHEELER. Well, they have all been identified as such before this House committee.

Mr. RADIN. If you say so.

I do not know at firsthand knowledge whether anybody was there in the same position I was.

Mr. WHEELER. I would like to make the observation it is highly unusual for a person who is not a member to attend closed meetings of the Communist Party.

Mr. RADIN. I don't know anything of the procedure.

Mr. WHEELER. But you did not sign a Communist Party card?
Mr. RADIN. No.

Mr. WHEELER. You did not receive a Communist Party card?
Mr. RADIN. No.

Mr. WHEELER. You did not pay dues?

Mr. RADIN. No.

Mr. WHEELER. What is your present attitude regarding the Communist Party?

Mr. RADIN. I have absolutely no sympathy with them.

Mr. WHEELER. Have you made any information you may have regarding the Communist Party available to any other agency?

Mr. RADIN. Yes, I made whatever information I had available to the FBI.

Mr. WHEELER. Are these the only three meetings you ever attended? Mr. RADIN. To the best of my knowledge, yes.

Mr. WHEELER. Would you like to add anything to the record?

Mr. RADIN. I just want to add that I come here in the spirit of complete cooperation and will do everything I can to help.

Mr. WHEELER. But you have not been subpenaed?

Mr. RADIN. I have not been subpenaed.

Mr. WHEELER. This is voluntary?

Mr. RADIN. This is voluntary.

Mr WHEELER. Thank you, Mr. Radin.

(Whereupon the interrogation of Paul Benedict Radin was

concluded.)