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pose of these articles, and they were quite right about it. If you cannot get in what is political and nothing but poitical, you cannot get hold of anything that is criminal or personal.

Now, having passed from the general estimate of the ameness and feebleness of the addresses and charges, I begin with the consideration of the article in reference to t, and to the subject matter of which I am disposed to concede there is some proof, and that as to the speeches. Now. I think that it has been proved here that the peeches charged upon the President, in substance and in general, were made.

My first difficulty about them is, that they were made In 1866, and that they related to a Congress which has passed out of existence, and that they were the subject of report of the Judiciary Committee to the House, and which the House voted that it would not impeach. My next difficulty 18, that they are orimes against argument, against rhetoric, against taste, and perhaps against logic; but that the Constitution of the United States, neither in Itself nor by any subsequent administration, has provided for the government of the people in this country in these regards.

Now, it is a new thing in this country to punish any man For making a speech. There is a great many speeches made in this country, and, therefore, cases would undoubtedly have arisen in eighty years of our history where men were punished for making speeches. Indeed, I believo if there is anything which more particularly marks Is the approval of other nations, it is that every man in this country not only has a right to make a speech, but can make a speech, and a very good one, and that he does at some time or other actually do so.

The very lowest epithet for speech-making in the American republic adopted by the newspapers is "able and eloquent.' (Laughter.) I have seen applied in the newspapers to the efforts of honorable managers here, the epithet in advance of "tremendous." (Laughter.) I have seen them spoken of before they were delivered as of tremendous force; and I saw once an accurate, authentical statement of the force of one, and that in advance, that it consisted of 33.000 words. (Laughter.)

Therefore a case must have arisen for a question if there was to be any punishment for speech-making. But now, for the first time, we begin with the President, and accuse him; we take him before no ordinary court, but we o ganize a court for the purpose, which court adjourns the moment it is over with the trial. furnishing no precedents, and must remove him from office and order a new election. Now that is a good deal to turn upon a speech. Only think of it-to be able to make a speech which would require a new election of President to be made. (Laughter.) Well, if the trial is to take place, let the proclamation Isue to this speech-making people. "Let him who is without sin among you cast the first stone," and see how the nation, on tip-toc, awaits to see who will answer that dainty challenge, who assumes that fastidious duty. We see, in addition, the necessary requirement. It must be one who, by long discipline, has learned to speak without bounds, one whose lips would stammer at an imputation, whose cheek would blush at a reproach, whose ears would tingle at an invective, and whose eyes would close at an indecorum. It must be one who, by strict continuance of spech, and by control over the tongue-that unruly member has gained with all his countrymen the praise of ruling his own spirit, which is greater than one wlio taketh a city.

And now the challenge is answered, and it seems that the honorable manager to whom this duty is assigned, is one who would be recognized at once, in the judgment of all, as "First in war, first in peace, first in boldness of words, and first in the hearts of all his countrymen, who love this wordy intrepidity." (Unrepressed laughter.) Well, now, the champion being gained, we ask for the rules, and in an interlocutory inquiry, which I had the honor to address to him, he said the rule was the opinion of the court which was to try the case.

Now let us see whether we can get any guidance as to what your opinions are as to this subject of freedom of speech, for we are brought down to that, having no law or precedents, besides I find that the matter charged against the President, is, that he has been unmindful of the har mony and courtesies which should prevail between the legislative and the executive.

If it should prevail from the Executive towards the legislative, it should also prevail from the legislative to the Executive. Except I am to be met with what I must regard as a most novel view presented by Mr. Manager Williams, in his argument the other day, that, as the Constitution of the United States prevents your being drawn in question anywhere for what you say, it is, therefore, a rule which does not work both ways. Well, that is an agreeable view of personal duty, that if I wear an impenetrable shirt of mail, it is just the thing for me to be drawing daggers against every one else.

Noblesse oblige seems to be a law which the honorable manager does not think applicable to the houses of Congress. If there were anything in that suggestion, how should you guard and regulate your use of freedom of speech? Now I have not gone outside of the debates which are connected with the Civil Tenure act.

My time has been sufficiently occupied with reading all that has been said in behalf of the House on that subject, but I find a well recorded precedent, not merely in the observation of a single Senator, but in the direct determination of the Senate itself, in passing on the quostion, which certainly points at least to freedom of speech as between two departments of the government.

The honorable Senator from Massachusetts, in the course

of the debate, savs, on the subject of this very law in reference to the President, "You may ask protection against whom? I answer plainly, protection against the President of the United States. There sir, is the duty of the hour. Ponder it well, and do not forget it. There was no such duty on our fathers. There was no such duty on our recent predecessors in this Chamber, because there was no President of the United States who had become the enemy of his country."

Well, now, the President had said that Congress was hanging on the verge of the government, but here is a direct charge that the President of the United States is the enemy of the country. Mr. Sumner being called to order for that expression, the honorable Senator from Rhode Island, Mr. Anthony, who not unfrequently presides with so much urbanity and so much control over your deliberations, gave this view as to what the common law of the tribunal is on the subject of the harmonies and courtesies which should prevail between the legislative and executive departments.

He said, "It is the impression of the chair that these words do not exceed the usual (laughter) latitude of debate which has been permitted here." (Laughter). Now that is the custom of the tribunal established by the presiding officer.

Mr. Sherman, of Ohio, said, "I think the words objected to are clearly in order." (Loud Laughter.)

I have heard similar remarks fifty times (continued laughter) without any question of order being raised. And the Senate came to a vote, the opposing members of which remind me of some votes on evidence which we have had on this trial. The appeal was laid on the table by a vote of 29 yeas to 10 nays. But that is not all. Proceeding in the same debate, after being allowed to be in order, Mr. Sumner goes on with his speech, the eloquence of which I cannot sufficiently compliment, as it would be out of place to do so, but it certainly is of the highest order. Of course, I make no criticism. He begins with the announcement of a very good principle.

He says:

"I shall insist always on complete freedom of debate, and I shall exercise it. John Milton, in his glorions aspirations, said:-(Give me the liberty to know, to utter and to argue freely above all liberties.) "Thank God now that slave-masters have been driven from this court-such is the liberty of American Senators.

Of course, there can be no citizen of a republic too high for exposure, as there can be none too low for protection. These are not only invaluable liberties, but commanded duties. Now, is there anything in the President's answer that is nobler or more thorough-going than that? And if the President is not too high; if it a commanded, duty to call him an enemy of the country, is not the House of Representatives to be exposed to the imputation of a most intelligible aspersion upon them that they are hanging on the verge of the government. (Laughter.)

Then the honorable Senator proceeds in a style of observation, on which I shall make no eriticism whatever, except that that of Cicero against Cataline and against Verres does not contain more eloquence against the objects of his invective than that speech of the honorable Senator; and then it all ends in a wonderfully sensible and pithy observation, on the part of the honorable Senator from Michigan, Mr. Howard, who says, "the Senator from Massachusetts has advanced the idea that the President has become an enemy to his country," but I suppose that not only to be the condition of the sentiment in this Senate, touching the President of the United States, but I suppose we never had a President in regard to whom the opinion of the Senate was not divided on just that question-some thinking he was an enemy of the country, and others thinking that he was not; and I respectfully submit therefore that the Senator from Massachusetts will be as competent to try an impeachment if sent here against the President as I concede the Senator from Maryland, Mr. Johnson, will be competent to try it." Now that is good sense. Senatorial license may be made so wide as that.

We have also a report in the House of Representatives of a very brief debate between two of the most distinguished members of that hody, who can. as well as any others, for the purpose of this trial, furnish a standard of what is called by the honorable manager "propriety of speech." Mr. Bingham says, "I desire to say, Mr. Chairman, that it does not become a gentleman who recorded his vote fifty times for Jefferson Davis, the arch-traitor in this Rebellion (roars of laughter), as his candidate for the Presidency of the United States, to undertake to damage this cause by attempting to fasten au imputation either on my integrity or on my honor; I repel with scorn and contempt, any utterances of that sort, from any man, whether he be the hero of Fort Fisher not taken, or of Fort Fisher taken." (Continuous laughter.) Mr. Butler, after some remarks, said:-"But if, during the war, the gentleman from Ohio did as much as I did in that direction, I shall be glad to recognize that much.

"But the only victim of the gentlemen's prowess that I know of was an innocent woman hung upon the scaffold, one Mrs. Surratt; and I can sustain the inemory of Fort Fisher, if he and his present associates can sustain him in shedding the blood of a woman who was tried by a military commission and convicted without sufficient evidence, in my judgment." Mr. Bingham replied with spirit:--"I challenge the gentleman; I dare him here, or anywhere in this tribunal, or any tribunal, to assert that I spoliated or mutilated any book. But such a charge, without one tittle of evidence, is only fit to come from a man who lives in a bottle, and is fed with a spoon." What that refers to I do not know.

[While the court and galleries were convulsed with laughter at the expense of the two managers referred to both these gentlemen sat at the table apparently unconcerned and uninterested spectators.]

Mr. EVARTS, continuing, said:

This all comes within the common law of courtesy, in the judgment of the House of Representatives. We have attempted to show that in the President's addresses to the people there was something of irritation, something in the subject, something in the manner of the crowd which excused and explained, if it did not justify, the style of his speeches; and you might suppose that this interchange of debate which I have just read grew out of some subject which was irritating, which was in itself savage and ferocious. But what do you think the subject was that these honorable gentlemen were debating upon? Why it was charity.

A Senator-What?

Mr. EVARTS Charity-a question of charity to the South; that was the whole staple of debate. "Charity which suffereth all things and is kind." (Laughter.) Charity which envieth not; charity which vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up, and doth not behave itself unseemly seeketh not her own, is not easily provoked; thinketh no evil, rejoiceth not in iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth; beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all things, endureth all things. "Charity never fails." But the apostle adds, what may not be exactly true in regard to the managers, "Tongues may fail." (Laughter.)

But now, now to be serious. In a free Republic who will tolerate this fanfaronade about speech-making. Quis tole rit gracchos de seditione querentes? Who will tolerate public orators prating about propriety of speech? Why can we not learn that their estimates of others must proceed on general views, and not vary according to particular passions and prejudice?

When Cromwell, in his career through Ireland in the name of the Parliament, had set himself down before the town of Ross, and summoned it to surrender, the Papist community, exhausted in its resistance, asked to surrender only on condition of freedom of conscience.

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Cromwell replied:-"As to freedom of conscience, I meddle with no man's conscience, but if you mean by that liberty to celebrate the Mass, I would have you to underetand that in no place where the power of the Parliament of England prevails, shall that be permitted." So the honorable managers do not complain of freedom of speech, but if any nan says that the House of Representatives is hanging on the verge of the government," we are to understand that in no place where the power of the two Houses of Congress prevails, shall that be permitted, although they meddle with no man's property or freedom of speech? (Laughter.) Now, Mr. Jefferson, who had occasion to give his views about infractions of the freedom of writing when the Sedition. law was introduced into the legislation of this country, and, at the same time, to give some notions about the right of the Executive to have an opinion, says, in a letter to Mr. President Adams, written in 1804:-"I discharged every person under punishment and prosecution under the Sedition law, because I considered and now consider that law to be a nullity as absolute and as palpable as if Congress had ordered us to fall down and worship the golden image, and that it was as much my duty to arrest its execution in every State as it would have been to have rescued from the fiery furnace those who should have been cast into it for refusing to worship the image." It was accordingly done in every instance, without asking what the offenders had done, or against whom they had offended, but whether the pains they were suffering were inflicted under the pretended sedition law, and in another letter he replies to some observation as to the freedom of the Executive about the constitutionality of laws:-"You seem to think it devolved on the judges to decide on the validity of the Sedition law, but nothing in the Constitution has given them a right to decide for the Executive more than for the Executive to decide for them. Both magistrates are equally independent in the sphere of action assigned to them; the judges believing the law constitutional had a right to pass sentence of fine or imprisonment, because the power is placed. in their hands by the Constitution, but the Execu tive, believing the law to be unconstitutional, was bound to remit the execution of it, because that power had been confided to him by the Constitution, that its co-ordinate branches should be checks upon each other; but the opinion that gives the judges the right to administer what laws are constitutional and what are not, not only for themselves in their own sphere of action, but for the legislative and Executive also in their spheres, would render the judiciary despotic and tyrannical." Now, we have no occasion to assert, and we have not asserted, the right to resort to these extreme opinions, which, it is known Mr. Jefferson entertained. The opinions of Mr. Madison, more temperate but equaly thorough, were to the same effect, and the co-ordinate branches of the government must surrender their co-ordination whenever they allow the past history to be a final bar from renewing or presenting constitutional questions for reconsideration and redetermination, if necessary, even by the Supreme Court; but we have here some questions of the courtesies of the different branches of the government in the severe expression of opinon which Mr. Manager Boutwell indulged in relation to the heads of departments.

What he said is as much severer and as much more degrading to that branch of the government than anything which was said by the President in relation to Congress, as can be imagined. Exception is here taken to the fact,

that the President called Congress, in a telegram, a set of individuals. Well, we have heard of an old lady, not very well instructed, who got very violent on being called an individual, but here we have an imputation in so many words on the heads of departments of this government, that they are serfs, the servants of a master, slaves of an owner and yet, in this very presence, sits the eminent Chief Justice of the United States, and the eminent Senator from Maine (Mr. Fessenden), and the distinguished Senator from Pennsylvania (Mr. Cameron), all of whom have held Cabinet offices which are thus deprecated and derided, and if I were to estimate the Senators who aspire in the future to hold these degrad ing positions, I am afraid I should not have judges enough here to determine this case. (Laughter). I know this is all extravagance, est modus in rebus, sunt certi deniqus fines. There is some measure in things; there is some limit to the bounds of debate and discussion. Now, I agree that nothing can be more unfortunate than the language used by the President in the speech made in St. Louis.

The difficulty is undoubtedly that the President is not familiar with the graces; he has not been taught at school costly ornament and the studied contrivances of speech, but that he speaks right on, and when an article is presented in his path he steps right over it. Here is a rheto rical difficulty presented for a man who is not a rhetori cian, as a sort of a metaphorical allusion was made to Judas. Well, now, if anybody attempts to become logi cal with a metaphor it will get him into trouble at once (laughter), and that is what the President did. If you look around with the eye of a logician you see that Judas was the betrayer of all goodness, and a man would natu rally say, where is the goodness I have betrayed?

The moment, therefore, that you seek to be logical, by introducing the name of the divinity against whom Judas had thus sinned, there, of course, you produce that offense to our religious sentiment, which otherwise would not have been committed. I am not entirely sure that when you make allowance for the difference between the extempore speech of the President to a mob, and a writ ten, prepared and printed speech to this court by the honorable managers, but there will be some little trace of the same impropriety of that figure of argument which presented Mr. Carpenter to your observation as an inspired painter, whose pencil was guided by the hand of Provi dence, and the appointment of Mr. Edwin M. Stanton to perpetual blies and Governor Seward to eternal pain. (Laughter.)

But all that is matter of taste, matter of feeling; matter of distinction, matter of judgment. The serious views impressed upon you with so much force by the counsel for the President who opened this case (Mr. Curtis), and supported by the quotations from Mr. Madison, present this whole subject in its proper view to an American audience. I think that if our newspapers would find some more discriminating scale of comment on speeches than to make the lowest in the scale able and eloquent, we should have a better state of things in our orations.

Now, our position in reference to the speeches is that the subjects produced in proof should be considered; that words put into the speaker's mouth by the crowd, or called for by their unfriendly or impolite suggestions, are to have their weight and that without apologizing, for no man is bound to apologize before the laws before the court for the exercise of freedom of speech. It may be fairly admitted that it would be well if all men were accomplished rheto ricians and finished logicians, and had a bridle on their tongues. And now, without verging at all upon the eleventh article, which I leave to the observations of the honorable managers, and leave among themselves to dispose of, I will take up the Emory article.

The Emory article is an offense which began and ended on the 22d of February, and is comprised within a short conversation between the President and a general of our army. I dare say that in the rapid and heated course of events which took impeachment through the House of Representatives, it might have been understood by rumor, uncertain and implied, that there had occurred some kind of military purpose or communication on the part of the President which looked to the use of force. But under the proofs what can we say of it but that the President, under an intimation from Secretary Welles that all the officers were being called away from what, doubtless, is their proper occupation in time of peace, "attendance on levees," and were being summoned, as they were from the halls of revelry at Brussels to the battle of Waterloo, inquired, as it was natural to inquire, when and, where this battle was to take place?

The President received it with great indifference; said he did not know about General Emory, and did not seem to care anything about it. But, finally, when Secretary Welles said that it would be better to look into it, the President did look into it, and it ended with a discussion of constitutional law between the President and General Emory, in which the General, reinforced by Mr. Reverdy Johnson, a lawyer, and Mr. Robert J. Walker, a lawyer, actually put down the President entirely. (Laughter.)

Now, if the President ought to be removed from office for that, and a new election ordered for that, you will so determine in judgment, and if any other President can go through four years without doing something worse than that we shall have to be more careful in our preliminary examinations, and in our nominating conventions. I understand this article to be hardly insisted on, then comes the conspiracy articles. Now, the consipracy consists in this: It was all commenced and accomplished in writing. The documents were published; they were immediately promulgated, and that is the conspiracy," if it be one. It is quite true that the honorable manager who con

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Stanton, to consider that point but for the purpose of Mr. Thomas' appointment. No such discrimination need to be made. The question of the right of the executive to vacate an office, to be discriminated between the recess of the Senate and its session, arises out of the constitutional distinction that is taken, to-wit, that the Prosident can only fill offices during the session by the advice and consent of the Senate, and that he can, during the recess, commission by authority, to expire with the next session, but ad interim appointments do not rest upon the Constitution at all. They are not regarded, they never have been regarded, as an exercise of the appointing power in the sense of filling an office. They are regarded as fall ing within either the executive or the legislative duty of providing for the management of the duties of an office, before an appointment is or can properly be made.

Now in the absence of legislation it might be said that the power belonged to the executive; that part of his duty was when he saw that an accident had vacated an office, or that necessity required the removal of an incumbent so that the laws should be executed, and to provide that the laws should be executed, and to provide that the public service should be temporarily taken up and carried on, it might be fairly determined it was a casus omissus, for which the Constitution had provided a rule, and which the legislation of Congress might properly occupy

As early, therefore, as 1792, provision was made for the temporary occupation of an office. The act of 1792, regu lating three of the departments, provided that temporary absences and disabilities of the heads of departments might be met by appointments of a temporary character, to take charge of the office. The act of 1795 provides that in case of the vacancy in an office there should be power in the Executive which would not require him to fill the office by by the constitutional method, but temporarily to provide for the discharge of its duties.

Before considering the act of 1863, which, in terms, covers to a certain extent, but not fully, both of those points, I wish to ask your attention to some circumstances in regard to the passage of that act of 1863. I have said that the eighth section of the act of 1792 provided for the filling temporarily of vacancies. In January, 1863, the President sent to Congress this message, and Senators will perceive that it relates to this particular subject:

"I submit to Congress the expediency of extending to other departments of the government the authority con ferred on the President by the eighth section of the act of May 8, 1792, to appoint a person temporarily to discharge the duties of Secretary of State, Secretary of the Treasury and Secretary of War, in case of death, absence from the seat of government, or sickness."

That is to say, the temporary disability provision of the act of 1863, which covered all the departments then in existence, had never been extended by law to cover the other departments, and the President desired to have that act extended. This message having been referred to the Judiciary Committee, the honorable Senator from Illinois (Mr. Trumbull), chairman of the committee, madè, I believe, a very brief report, in which he said:

There have been several statutes on the subject, and as the law now exists the President has authority tempora rily to fill the offices of Secretary of State and Secretary of War from one of the other departments, by calling on somebody to discharge the duties. That other department was the Treasury, We have received a communication from the President of of the United States, asking that the law may be extended to the other executive departments of the government, which seems to be proper, and we have framed a bill covering all of these cases, so that whenever there is a removal the President may temporarily devolve the office upon another cabinet officer, and appoint the chief officer of the department for the time being."

There does not seem to have been brought to the notice of the Senate or the honorable Senator the act of 1795. Nothing is said of it, and it would appear as if the whole of the legislation of 1863 proceeded upon the proposition of extending the act of 1792, of disabilities and not of vacan cies, except that the honorable Senator uses the phrase "vacancy," and that he speaks of having provided for the occasions that might arise.-07.ia

Now, the act of 1863 does not cover the case of vacancies, except by resignation. It does not add to the disability which the President had referred to in the case of the re signation which he did not ask to have covered, and which did not need to be covered by new legislation, because the act of 1795 covered it. But this act of 1863 does not cover all the cases of vacancy. It does not cover cases of va tancy by removal, and it does not cover the case of expira cion of office, which is a case of vacancy. The Te

Now, under that additional light, it seems as if the only question presented of guilt on the part of the President in respect to the appointments to office, ad interim, was a question of the final law. The Senators will remark the very limited form in which that question arises. It is not pretended that the appointment of Thomas, if the office was vacant, was a violation of the Civil Tenure act, although, perhaps, it may be so charged in the articles, because an examination of the articles shows that the only appointments, the infringement of which is made penal, is the appointment under the provi sions of this act, as was pointed out by my colleague

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death, resignation, absence from the seat of government
or sickness of the head of any executive department, or of
any officer of said department whose appointment is not
in the head thereof, whereby they cannot perform the du
ties of their respective offices, it shall be lawful for the
President of the United States, in case he should think it
necessary, to authorize"-not any person or persons, as in
the act of 1795. but to authorize "any other of said
departments, whose appointment is vested in the
President, at his discretion, to perform the duties
of the said respective offices until a successor be
appointed, or until such absence or disability by!
sickness shall cease; provided, that no one vacancy shall
be supplied in manner aforesaid for a longer term than
six months." Now, it will be observed that the eighth
section of the act of 1792, to which I now call attention
(being found on page (218), provides thus: "That in case of
the death, absence from the seat of government, or sick
ness of the Secretary of State, Secretary of the Treasury,
or the Secretary of the War Department, or of any officer
of either of the said departments, whose appointment is not
in the head thereof, whereof they cannot perform the duties
of their respective offices, it shall be lawful for the Presi
dent of the United States, in case he should think it neces
sary, to authorize any person or persons, at his discretion,
to perform the duties of the said respective office until a
successor be appointed, or until the said disability, by ab
sence or sickness, shall cease." 11

Now, I am told, or I understand from the argument, that if there was a vacancy in the office of Secretary of War by the competent and effective removal of Mr. Stanton, by the exercise of the President's authority in his paper order, which thus comes to be some infraction of law by reason of the President designating General Thomas to the ad interim charge of the office, because, it is said, that though under the act of 1790, or under the act of 1791 General Thomas, under the comprehension of "any person or persons," might be open to the President's choice and appointment; yet, that he does not come within the limited and restricted right of selection for ad interim duties, which is proposed by the act of 1863.

It must be assumed in argument, that the whole range of selection permitted under that act was of the heads of departments; but your attention is drawn to the fact that it permits the President to desig nate any person who is either the head of a depart ment or holds any office in any department, the ap bigpointment of which is by the President; and I would like to know why General Thomas, the Adjutant-General of the Armies of the United States, holding his position in that Department of War, is not a person appointed by the To da sormaya lo duty; and I would like to know upon what principle of President, and open to his selection for this temporary daordinary succession or recourse any officer could be found better suited to assume for a day or a week the discharge of the ad interim duties than the Adju tant-General of the Armies of the United States, being the staff officer of the President, and the person who stand there as the principal directory and immediate agent of the War Department in the exercise of its ordinary funotions. I cannot but think it is too absurd for me to argue to the Senate that the removal of the President of the United States would not depend upon the question whether an adjutant-general was a proper locum tenens or not; or whether entangled between the boughs of re pealed and unrepealed statutes, the President may have erred in that which he thought his rightful authority. Let me call your attention now to an exercise of this power of ad interim appointment as found in the administration of President Lincoln, page 582 of the record, before the enact ment of the statute of 1863. Now, you will observe that before the passage of the act of 1863, there was in force no statutory authority for the ad interim discharge of the officers, except the acts of 1792 and 1795, which were limited in their terms to the Departments of War, of State and of the Treasury.

Now, you have directly in this action of President Lin coln, not an infraction of the prohibitory statute with a penalty, but of a technical appointment without the ade quate support of an enabling act of Congress to cover it for he proceeded on September 22, 1862, to appoint John B. Skinner, then acting First Assistant Postmaster-General to be acting Postmaster-General ad interim, in place of Montgomery Blair, who was temporarily absent. That was in the Department of the Post Office, not covered by the acts of 1792 and 1795. Now, I would like to know whether, when Mr. Lincoln appointed Mr. Skinner to be Postmaster-General without an enabling and supporting aet of Congress to justify him, he deserved to be im peached? Whether that is a crime against the Constitu tion and his oath of office, whether a duty due to the Constitution that he should be impeached and removed and a separating from these crimes alleged in the articles the new election ordered? I cannot but insist upon alway guilt that is outside of the articles, and that has been per ceived, and which their answer not even permitted to " rebut by testimony.

I will take the question as it is, and I will read each arti cle, including the whole compass of crime, the whole range of imputation, the whole scope of testimony and construc tion; and unless there be some measure of guilt, some pur pose, or some act of force, of violence, I cannot find in mis taken, erroneous acts of excess of authority, making no either menace or injury to the public service, any founda impression upon the fabric of the government, or giving tion for this extraordinary proceeding of impeachment guilty or not guilty, not of acts set forth in the articles Am I right in saying that you must give your judgment of but as guilty or not guilty of high crime and misdemeanor.

as charged; that you will have the question as distinctly get as in the Peck and Chase trials, and not the questions as used in the Pickering trial. for the honorable manager (Mr. Wilson) denounces the latter as a mockery of justice and finding of the material facts, leaving no conclusion of law or judgment to be found by anybody.

says,

marks, I think, were made some time in the year 1862 or
1863. It was a translation and a juncture which is fa-
miliar to the recollection of Senatore who took part in it,
and, doubtless, to all the public men whom I have now
the honor to address. Now, the honorable managers on
behalf of the House of Representatives do not hold to this
idea at all; not at all; and I must think that the course of
events accord in its administration of the laws of evidence
as not enabling the President to produce the supporting
aid of his Cabinet, which, as this paper
he ought to have in all his measures and views has either
proceeded on the ground that his action, in your judgment.
did not need any explanation or support, or else on the
ground that you have not sufficiently held to these useful
views about the Cabinet, which were presented to the no-
tice of Mr. Lincoln. Public rumor has said-and for the
truth of which I do not vouch, as I have no knowledge of
it-that Mr. Lincoln rather blunted the edge of that repre-
sentation by suggesting that what the honorable Senators
wanted was that his Cabinet should agree with them
rather than with him."

There is another point of limitation of the President's authority, as contained in both the act of 1795 and the act of 1863, which has been made the subject of some comment by the learned and honorable manager, Mr. Boutwell. It is, that any how and any way, the President has been guilty of a high crime and misdemeanor, however innocent otherwise, because the six months' limit accorded to him by the act of 1795 or by the act of 1863 had already expired before he appointed General Thomas. Well, I do not exactly understand the reasoning of the honorable manager. But it is definitely written down, and words, I suppose, have their ordinary meaning. How it is that the President is chargeable with having, filled a vacancy thus occurring on the 21st of February, 1868, if it occurred at all, by an appointment which he made ad interim on that day, because his eix months' right had expired, I do not understand. It is an attempt to connect it in some way with the preceding suspension of Mr. Stanton, which certainly did not create a vacancy in the office; no matter, then, whether the suspension was unper the Civil Tenure act or under the act of 1796, the office was not vacant until the removal. Now there remains nothing to be considered, except about an ad interim appointment as occurring during a session of the Senate or during the recess. effort has been made to connect a discrimination between a session of the Senate and a recess of the Senate in its operation on the right of ad interim appointment with the discrimination which the Constitution makes between filling the office during the session, and the limited coinmission which is permitted during the recess. But suflicient, I imagine, for all purposes of convincing your judg-visers of the President in the matter of appointments, as ment, has been shown to prove that a temporary appointment does not rest on constitutional provisions at all; that it not a filling of the office, but that the office remains just as vacant, so far as the constitutional right and duty remains, as if the temporary appointment had not been made.

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When the final appointment is made it dates so as to supply the place of the persons whose vacancy led to the ad interim appointment, and in the very nature of things there can be no difference in that capacity between the recess aud the session of the Senate. We have been able to present on the pages of this record cases enough applicable to the heads of departments to make it unnecessary for me to argue the matter any further upon general principles. Mr. Evarts, in this connection, referred to the ad interim appointments of Mr. Nelson, in the State Department, on the 29th of February, 1844; of General Scott, in the War Department, on the 23d of July, 18; of Mr. Moses Kelley, in the Interior Department, June 10, 1861; and of General Holt, in the War Department, on the 1st of June, 1861.

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Mr. EVARTS continued:-And now, having passed through all possible allogations of infractions of the statue, I come to the consideration of the removal of Mr. Stanton, which is charged high crime and misdemeanor in the first article, and which has to be passed upon by this court, Under that imputation, and under the President's defense, the crime, as charged, may be regarded as the only one on which judgment is to be passed. The necessary concession to this obvious suggestion will relieve me very much from the difficulty of any protracted discussion. Before taking up the form of the article and the consideration of the facts of the procedure, I ask attention now to some general lights to be thrown both on the construction of the act by the debates in Congress, and by the relations of the Cabinet, as proper witnesses in reference to the purpose or intent of the President.

Most extraordinary means have been presented in behalf of the House of Representatives in reference to Cabinet Ministers. The personal degradation fastened upon them by the honorable manager (Mr. Boutwell) I have sufficiently referred to; and I recollect that there are in your number two or three other honorable Senators-the honorable Senator from Maryland (Mr. Johnson), and the honorable Senator from Iowa (Mr. Harlan)-who must take their share of the opprobrium which I yesterday divided among three members of the court alone.

The ability of the President to receive aid and direction from these heads of departments, has been presented as a dangerous innovation, as a sort of Star Chamber council, which was to devour our liberties. Perhaps some members of this honorable Senate may have already had their views changed on that subject since the time when a representation was made to President Lincoln in reference to his Cabinet, to which I beg to eall the attention of the Senate.

Mr. EVARTS read on this point the remonstrance, signed by twenty-five Senators, and addressed to Mr. Lincoln, on the subject of retaining Mr. Blair in his Cabinet, stating that the theory of the government is, and should be, that a Cabinet must agree with the President in political principles, and that such selection and choice should be made as to secure in the Cabinet unity of purpose and action; that the Cabinet should be exclusively composed of statesmen who are cordial, resolute and unvarying supporters of the principles and purposes of the Administration.

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However that may be, the doctrines in that paper are true, and are accordant to the precedents of the country and the law of the government; and I find it, therefore, quite unnecessary to refute, by any very serious or prolonged argument, the imputations or invectives against the Cabinet because it agreed with the President, that have been urged upon your attention; but now, as bearing both upon the question of the right to doubt and deliberate on the power of the President, both as to the constitutionality of the Tenure of Oflice act, and as to the construction of its hrst section. I may be permitted to attract your attention to some points in the debates of Congress not yet alluded to.

I will not recall the history of the action of the House upon the general form and purpose of the bill, nor of the persistency with which the Senate, being still the ad

members of the legislative branch of the government, insisted on the exclusion of Cabinet ministers from the purview of the bill altogether, but when it was found that the House was persistent in its view also, the Senate concurred with it, on a conference, in a measure of accommodation concerning this special matter of the Cabinet which is now to be found in the text of the first section of the act.

In the debate on the Tenure of Office bill, the honorable Senator from Oregon (Mr. Williams), who seems, with the Senator from Vermont (Mr. Edmunds), to have had some particular conduct of the debate, said; "I do not regard the exception as of any great practical consequence, because, I suppose, if the President and any head of a department should disagree so as to make their relations unpleasant, and if the President should signify that that head of department should retire from the Cabinet, would foilow without any positive act of removal on the part of the President and Mr. Sherman, bearing on the same point, says, "Any gentleman fit to be & Cabinet minister, who receives an intimation from his Chief that his longer continuance in the oflice is unpleasant to him, would necessarily resign. If he did not resign, it would show that he was unfit to be there. I cannot imagine a case where a Cabinet officer would hold on to his place in defiance and against the wishes of his chief." Bat, nevertheless, this practical lack of importance in the measure which induced the Senate to yield their opinions of regulating any governmental proceedings, and to permit the modification of the bill, led to the enatment as it now appears.

And the question is how this matter was understood not by one man, not by one speaker, but, so far as the record shows, by the whole Senate, on the question of the construction of the act as inclusive of Mr. Stanton, or of any other incumbent of a Cabinet position. When the Conference Committee reported the section as it now reads-as the result of the compromise between the Senate, firm in its views, and the House, firm in its purpose-the honora ble Senator from Michigan (Mr. Howard) asked that the proviso might be explained.

Now you are at the very point of finding out what it means, when the Senate got so far as to ask those who had charge of the matter and who were fully competent to advise about it. The honorable Senator, Mr. Williamns, states that the tenure of office of the Cabinet ministers shall expire when the term of office of the President by whom they were appointed expires, and he went on to say, "I have, from the beginning of this controversy, regarded this as quite immaterial, for I have no doubt that any Cabinet officer who has a particle of self-respect, aud I can hardly suppose that any man would occupy so responsible a position without it, would continue to remain in the Cabinet after the President had signified to him that his presence was no longer needed.

"As a matter of course the effect of the provision amounts to very little one way or the other, for I presume that whenever the President thinks proper to rid himself of an offensive Cabinet minister, he has only to signify that desire, and the minister will retire and the new appointment be made." Mr. Sherman said, "I agree to the report of the Committee of Conference with a great deal of reluctance. I think that no gentleman, no man of any sense, of honor, would hold a position as Cabinet officer after his chief desires his removal, and, therefore, the slightest intimation on the part of the President would always secure the resignation of the Cabinet officer, for that reason I do not wish to jeopard this bill about an unimportant aud collateral question."

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