decisive proletarian victory. The revolutionary working class movement is in constant need of trained new groups of active workers and leaders. The school is not an academic institution. It participates in all the current struggles of the working class. The first course is entitled "Principles of Communism," and the instructors are named as E. Roberts and Edward Boudreau, B-o-u-dr-e-a-u. Were you acquainted with those two persons? Mr. ROSSER. I was not. Mr. TAVENNER. The second course is Principles of Communism for Young Workers and the instructor is Jean Rand. Mr. ROSSER. I was acquainted with her. Mr. TAVENNER. Was Jean Rand a member of the Communist Party to your knowledge? Mr. ROSSER. Not to my knowledge. She was a member of the Young Communist League. Mr. TAVENNER. Marxism Economics-A; instructor, James Branch and also Sam Goodwin. Were you acquainted with either or both of those persons! Mr. ROSSER. Both of them. Mr. TAVENNER. Were either of them to your knowledge members of the Young Communist League or the Communist Party? 1 Mr. ROSSER. Sam Goodwin; Sam Goodwin was a member of the Communist Party. Mr. TAVENNER. You do not know as to James Branch? Mr. ROSSER. No. Mr. TAVENNER. Marxian Economics-B is the the next course, and the instructor is Charles Gordon. Were you acquainted with Charles Gordon? Mr. ROSSER. I was not. Mr. TAVENNER. The next course is Leninism; instructors, Sam Darcy, George Morris, James Branch, and others, Were you acquainted with Sam Darcy? Mr. ROSSER. I was." 』 Mr. TAVENNER. Was he known to you to be a member of the Communist Party? Mr. ROSSER. He was the organizer of district 13 during that time. Mr. TAVENNER. Was he known to you to be a member of the Communist Party? Mr. ROSSER. He was. } Mr. TAVENNER. The next course is History of the American Labor Movement, and the teacher, Violet Orr, O-r-r. Were you acquainted with Violet Orr? Mr. ROSSER. I was. Mr. TAVENNER. Was she known to you to be a member of either the Young Communist League or the Communist Party? Mr. ROSSER. Communist Party. Mr. TAVENNER. The next course is History of the Three Internationals; instructor, Emmett Kirby, K-i-r-b-y. Were you acquainted with Emmett Kirby? Mr. ROSSER. I was not. Mr. TAVENNER. The next course is History of the Russian Revolution; instructor, L. Thompson. Mr. ROSSER. I did not know him. Mr. JACKSON. Mr. Chairman. Mr. VELDE. Mr. Jackson. Mr. JACKSON. Mr. Counsel, are the names you are reading those who were open members of the Communist Party? Mr. ROSSER. Some of them were. Mr. JACKSON. The names that are being read? Mr. ROSSER. Yes; some of them were, most of them. Mr. JACKSON. I think, Mr. Chairman, in such cases where they were not open members of the Communist Party the witness should further identify them and give the source of his knowledge as to their membership in the Communist Party. Mr. VELDE. I agree; if you will do that, Mr. Counsel. Mr.TAVENNER. Yes. Mr. VELDE. Those who are not known to him to be members openly of the Communist Party. Mr. TAVENNER. National and Colonial Problems is the next course, with instructor Carl Hama, H-a-m-a. Were you acquainted with Carĺ Hama? Mr. ROSSER. I did not know him. Mr. TAVENNER. The next course is Trade Union Strategy and Tactics; instructor, Neil, N-e-i-l, Hickey, H-i-c-k-e-y. Were you acquainted with Neil Hickey? Mr. ROSSER. I did not know him. Mr. TAVENNER. Principles of Working Class Organization is the next; instructor, Louise Todd. Were you acquainted with Louise Todd? Mr. ROSSER. I was. Louise Todd was a State leader of the Communist Party in California. Mr. TAVENNER. An open member of the Communist Party! Mr. TAVENNER. The next course is History of the Youth Movement and Program of the Young Communist International; instructor, Jack Olsen. Were you acquainted with Jack Olsen? Mr. ROSSER. I was. I was on the county committee of the Los Angeles Young Communist League with Jack Olsen, He was the head of Los Angeles County. I was on the State committee of the Young Communist League. He was on the State committee, and he later became the head of the Young Communist League in California, and then he was an open Communist, and then he later became an official in the Local 6 of the Warehousemen's Union. Mr. TAVENNER. The next course is Economics for Young Communist League; instructor is not given. "Elementary English"; instructor, Cora Reed. Mr. ROSSER. I did not know her. Mr. TAVENNER. Advanced English; instructor, K. McKee, M-c-K-e-e. Mr. ROSSER. I did not know him. Mr. TAVENNER. Elementary Russian; instructor, G. Williams. Mr. ROSSER. I did not know him. Mr. TAVENNER. Advanced Russian; instructor, Vladimir A. Tichinin, V-l-a-d-i-m-i-r T-i-c-h-i-n-i-n. Were you acquainted with him? Mr. ROSSER. No, I was not. Mr. TAVENNER. Evolution of Arts and Technics; instructor, K. Rexroth, R-e-x-r-o-t-h. Were you acquainted Mr. ROSSER. I did not know her. Mr. TAVENNER. Self-Defense in Courts; instructors, Elaine Black and George Anderson. Mr. ROSSER. I knew Elaine Black to be a member of the Communist Party. I knew George Anderson, but I didn't know him to be a member of the Communist Party. Mr. TAVENNER. You did not know him to be a member? Mr. ROSSER. No. Mr. TAVENNER.. "Public Speaking"; instructor, T. Alex, A-1-e-x. Mr. ROSSER. I did not know him. Mr. TAVENNER. "Agitation and Propaganda Technique"; instructors, A. Garrison and R. Casimir, G-a-r-r-i-s-o-n and R. C-a-s-i-m-i-r. Mr. ROSSER. I knew Garrison, but I didn't know-as an open Communist-but I didn't know the other. Mr. TAVENNER. Will you speak a little louder? Mr. ROSSER. I didn't know Casimir. Mr. TAVENNER. What did you say with regard to Garrison? Mr. TAVENNER. As an open Commuinst? Mr. ROSSER. Yes. Mr. TAVENNER. "Revolutionary Journalism"; instructor, Emmett Kirby. I believe I have asked you about Kirby. Mr. ROSSER. I didn't know Kirby. Mr. TAVENNER. "Revolutionary Theater"; instructor, Harold Davis. Mr. ROSSER. I didn't know Harold Davis. Mr. TAVENNER. You did not know him? Mr. ROSSER. No. Mr. TAVENNER. "Historical Materialism Seminar"; no instructor named. "Poster Work"; instructor, Lester Balog, B-a-l-o-g. Mr. ROSSER. I did not know him. Mr. TAVENNER. "Drawing"; instructor, Jack Roberts. Mr. ROSSER. I did not know Jack Roberts. Mr. TAVENNER. "Still Photography-Elementary"; instructors, P. Aller, A-1-1-e-r, and J. Fidiam, F-i-d-i-a-m. "Study and use of various types of cameras, lighting, lenses, choice and composition of revolutionary working class subjects." Mr. ROSSER. I didn't know either one. Mr. TAVENNER. Let me interrupt to ask you what was the significance of the teaching of the selection and composition of revolutionary working class subjects? Mr. ROSSER. Well, the importance of it is being able to photograph locations of defense plants-that is a working class subject-being able to take photographic copies of records and things like that. Mr. TAVENNER. Let me ask at this point, in your experience in the Communist Party were you ever given an assignment as a courier or to participate in particular acts of espionage such as obtaining documents for reproduction and passing them on to enemies of this country? Mr. ROSSER. I was not. Mr. TAVENNER. "Hygiene and Diet"; Dr. H. F. Unsinger. 41002-54-pt. 1- -3 Mr. ROSSER. I did not know him. Mr. TAVENNER. Apparently there was an extension division of this school in which extension services were rendered to the Greek Workers' Club, 1171 Market Street, in which the subject "History of American Labor Movement" was taught, and the instructor was identified as Ida Rothstein, R-o-t-h-s-t-e-i-n. Mr. ROSSER. I knew her. She was a charter member of the party. I worked with her down in Los Angeles. She is an open Communist. Mr. TAVENNER. Do you have any personal knowledge of the Greek Workers' Club? Mr. ROSSER. I do not. Mr. TAVENNER. And the next is the Needle Workers' Industrial Union, 830 Market Street, and the subject was "Trade Union Strategy and Tactics"; no instructor named. Did you have any personal knowledge of that organization? Mr. ROSSER. Not here in San Francisco. Mr. TAVENNER. North Beach Workers' School, in which there was taught "Principles of Communism," "History of American Labor Movement," and "Principles of Working Class Organization." Were you acquainted with the North Beach Workers' School? Mr. ROSSER. No, I was not. Mr. TAVENNER. Marine Workers, 437 Market Street. Do you know what that address was? 437 Market Street? Mr. ROSSER. No, I do not. Mr. TAVENNER. There is a notation that this extension course was "Conducted in conjunction with Marine Workers' Industrial Union"; instructor, Fred Moore. Were you acquainted with Fred Moore? Mr. ROSSER. I wasn't. Mr. TAVENNER. The executive committee members of this school are named as follows: James Branch-you have already testified regarding James Branch, and I believe you said you did not know him. Mr. ROSSER. I did not know him as a Communist. Was Esther Goodman an open Communist member or not? Mr. ROSSER. Well, I didn't know whether she was an open Communist. Mr. TAVENNER. Will you give us further description and account of the circumstances under which you knew her to be a member of the Communist Party? Mr. ROSSER. Well, I met her at a meeting of the Communist Party up here in San Francisco. Mr. TAVENNER. J. W. Weeks, publicity manager. Mr. ROSSER. I didn't know him. Mr. TAVENNER. Nell Higman, N-e-1-1 H-i-g-m-a-n, librarian. Mr. ROSSER. I know a Nell Higman, an open Communist, who is a retired school teacher. Whether that is she or not I don't know. Mr. TAVENNER. Is the person to whom you refer a resident of San Francisco or some other place? Mr. ROSSER. She is a resident of Los Angeles, but I don't know how long she has been down there. Mr. TAVENNER. A. Palola, P-a-l-o-l-a. Mr. ROSSER. I don't know him. Mr. TAVENNER. D-u-n-n-i-n-g. Dr. Harold F. Unsigner. Mr. TAVENNER. G. Geoffrin, G-e-o-f-f-r-i-n. Mr. ROSSER. I don't know him. Mr. TAVENNER. The advisory council is mentioned here, consisting of the following: Langston Hughes, writer. Mr. ROSSER. I know him, but not as a member of the Communist Party. Mr. TAVENNER. Ella Winter, writer. Mr. ROSSER. I know her, but not as a member of the Communist Party. Mr. TAVENNER. Lincoln Steffens, writer. Mr. ROSSER. I knew him, too. He was Ella Winter's husband. Mr. TAVENNER. George Morris, editor of the Western Worker. Mr. TAVENNER. Beatrice Kinkead, Ê-i-n-k-e-a-d. Mr. ROSSER. I didn't know her. Mr. TAVENNER. Did not know her? Mr. ROSSER. No. Mr. TAVENNER. Anita Whitney. Mr. ROSSER. I know her; she is the chairman of the Communist Party for the State of California. Mr. TAVENNER. Did you say "is"? Mr. ROSSER. Yes. Mr. TAVENNER. At the present time? Do you mean at the present time? Mr. ROSSER. At the time I knew her, up to the time I got out of the Communist Party. Mr. TAVENNER. That was in 1944? Mr. ROSSER. That is right. Mr. TAVENNER. Dr. M. H. Crawford. Mr. ROSSER. I identified him. Mr. TAVENNER. Sam Darcy. Mr. ROSSER. I knew Sam Darcy. Mr. TAVENNER. Benjamin Ellisberg, business agent, Ornamental Plasterers' Union, A. F. of L. Mr. ROSSER. I didn't know him. Mr. TAVENNER. Ed Harris, Machinist Local No. 68, A. F. of L. Mr. ROSSER. I didn't know him. Mr. TAVENNER. Sam Diner, D-i-n-e-r, president, Needle Trades Workers' Industrial Union. Mr. ROSSER. I knew him, but I didn't know him as a Communist. Mr. TAVENNER. Harry Jackson, coast organizer, Marine Workers' Industrial Union. Mr. ROSSER. I knew Harry Jackson well. He was the organizer of the Marine Workers' Industrial Union, and he was sent out here by the national committee of the Communist Party, and he was responsible by |