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(At this point Representative Francis E. Walter entered the hearing room.)

Mr. JACKSON. Mr. Scherer?

Mr. SCHERER. I have no further questions.

Mr. JACKSON. Mr. Doyle?

Mr. DOYLE. I notice you said you became interested in marxism when you were about 13 years old. You used this language

It seemed my conviction of mind was I believed it for many years. My conviction of mind was, I believe, for many years.

You are only 25 years old now. You have been a member of the Communist Party in the last year?

Mr. DEUTCH. I am 24 years old.

Mr. DOYLE. 24 years. Why did you stay in the Communist Party for so long? Up to within the year? Why didn't you get out before? Mr. DEUTCH. I suppose that is of my own inertia. I did nothing for long time. I was trying to act upon my conviction and yet when I tried to I was somewhat rebuffed and it was extreme inertia actually. Mr. DOYLE. By other people?

Mr. DEUTCH. There were certain disagreements. I just felt I wasn't doing very much.

Mr. DOYLE. You said there was some activity like giving out leaflets. What leaflets did you give out, up to a year ago? What leaflets? Where did you get the leaflets? What did the leaflets advocate?

Mr. DEUTCH. Well, I think they discussed problems in a shoe factory in upstate New York.

Mr. DOYLE. In connection with a strike?

Mr. DEUTCH. Correct.

Mr. DOYLE. Who published the leaflets?

Mr. DEUTCH. I believe the Communist Party published them. Mr. DOYLE. What Communist Party? Where did you get the leaflets? From the national headquarters?

Mr. DEUTCH. I don't believe so. It was a local branch.

Mr. DOYLE. Where was the office of the local branch from which you got these leaflets?

Mr. DEUTCH. I didn't know where it was. I was just asked to distribute them.

Mr. DOYLE. What?

Mr. DEUTCH. I was asked to distribute them.

Mr. DOYLE. Who asked you to?

Mr. DEUTCH. Those people I was connected with. I don't remember in detail.

Mr. DOYLE. How many of these people who were connected with you do you now refer to? About how many?

Mr. DEUTCH. Those people who were members of the student branch at Cornell.

Mr. DOYLE. About how many people was that?

Mr. DEUTCH. You mean over the course of years?

(At this point Mr. Deutch conferred with Mr. Sawyer.)

Mr. DEUTCH. How many were giving out leaflets? Oh, 5 to 10. Mr. DOYLE. That is all, Mr. Chairman.

Mr. JACKSON. Mr. Walter?

Mr. WALTER. No, no questions.

Mr. JACKSON. Is there any reason why the witness should not be excused?

Mr. TAVENNER. No, sir.

Mr. JACKSON. Very well. The witness is excused.

(Whereupon, at 11: 15 a. m., Monday, April 12, the executive hearing adjourned, subject to a call of the Chair.)

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COMMITTEE ON UN-AMERICAN ACTIVE
HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

EIGHTY-THIRD CONGRESS

SECOND SESSION

JUNE 28 AND 29, 1954

Printed for the use of the Committee on Un-American Activities

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