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PERSPECTIVES ON 9/11: BUILDING EFFECTIVELY
ON HARD LESSONS

HEARING

BEFORE THE

SELECT COMMITTEE ON

HOMELAND SECURITY

HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

ONE HUNDRED EIGHTH CONGRESS
FIRST SESSION

SEPTEMBER 10, 2003

Serial No. 108-25

Printed for the use of the Select Committee on Homeland Security

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SELECT COMMITTEE ON HOMELAND SECURITY

CHRISTOPHER COX, California, Chairman

JENNIFER DUNN, Washington
C.W. BILL YOUNG, Florida
DON YOUNG, Alaska

F. JAMES SENSENBRENNER, JR., Wisconsin
W.J. (BILLY) TAUZIN, Louisiana

DAVID DREIER, California

DUNCAN HUNTER, California
HAROLD ROGERS, Kentucky

SHERWOOD BOEHLERT, New York
LAMAR S. SMITH, Texas

CURT WELDON, Pennsylvania
CHRISTOPHER SHAYS, Connecticut
PORTER J. GOoss, Florida
DAVE CAMP, Michigan
LINCOLN DIAZ-BALART, Florida
BOB GOODLATTE, Virginia

ERNEST J. ISTOOK, JR., Oklahoma

PETER T. KING, New York

JOHN LINDER, Georgia

JOHN B. SHADEGG, Arizona

MARK E. SOUDER, Indiana

MAC THORNBERRY, Texas

JIM GIBBONS, Nevada

KAY GRANGER, Texas

PETE SESSIONS, Texas

JOHN E. SWEENEY, New York

JIM TURNER, Texas, Ranking Member
BENNIE G. THOMPSON, Mississippi
LORETTA SANCHEZ, California

EDWARD J. MARKEY, Massachusetts
NORMAN D. DICKS, Washington
BARNEY FRANK, Massachusetts
JANE HARMAN, California

BENJAMIN L. CARDIN, Maryland

LOUISE MCINTOSH SLAUGHTER, New York
PETER A. DEFAZIO, Oregon

NITA M. LOWEY, New York

ROBERT E. ANDREWS, New Jersey

ELEANOR HOLMES NORTON, District of
Columbia

ZOE LOFGREN, California

KAREN MCCARTHY, Missouri

SHEILA JACKSON-LEE, Texas

BILL PASCRELL, JR., New Jersey

DONNA M. CHRISTENSEN, U.S. Virgin Islands

BOB ETHERIDGE, North Carolina

CHARLES GONZALEZ, Texas

KEN LUCAS, Kentucky

JAMES R. LANGEVIN, Rhode Island

KENDRICK B. MEEK, Florida

JOHN GANNON, Chief of Staff

UTTAM DHILLON, Chief Counsel and Deputy Staff Director DAVID H. SCHANZER, Democrat Staff Director

MICHAEL S. TWINCHEK, Chief Clerk

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CONTENTS

STATEMENTS

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The Honorable Dave Camp, Chairman Subcommittee on Infrastructure and
Border Security

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The Honorable Porter Goss, Chairman Select Committee on Intelligence
The Honorable Jane Harman, a Representative in Congress From the State
of California

Ms. Eleanor Hill, Staff Director, Joint Intelligence Committee Inquiry

Oral Statement

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The Honorable Jim Turner, a Representative in Congress From the State of Texas

Oral Statement
Prepared Statement

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MATERIAL SUBMITTED FOR THE RECORD

Questions and Responses submitted for the Record

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PRESPECTIVES ON 9/11: BUILDING
EFFECTIVELY ON HARD LESSONS

Wednesday, September 10, 2003

U.S. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES,

SELECT COMMITTEE ON HOMELAND SECURITY,

Washington, D.C.

The committee met, pursuant to call, at 2:45 p.m., in Room 345, Cannon House Office Building, Hon. Christopher Cox [chairman of the committee] presiding.

Present: Representatives Cox, Dunn, Smith, Shays, Goss, Camp, King, Linder, Thornberry, Gibbons, Granger, Sessions, Sweeney, Turner, Thompson, Sanchez, Dicks, Harman, Cardin, Slaughter, DeFazio, Lowey, Norton, Lofgren, McCarthy, Jackson-Lee, Pascrell, Christensen, Etheridge, Lucas, Langevin, Meek, Weldon and DiazBalart.

Chairman Cox. This hearing will come to order. The full Committee on Homeland Security is meeting today to consider perspectives on September 11th, one day before its anniversary. Our hearing is titled "Building Effectively on Hard Lessons." Our witnesses will be Ms. Eleanor Hill, the Staff Director of the Joint Intelligence Committee inquiry, and the Honorable Jim Gilmore, former Governor of Virginia and Chairman of the Advisory Panel to Assess Domestic Response Capabilities for Terrorism Involving Weapons of Mass Destruction.

We will shortly welcome our witnesses after brief opening statements.

I think everyone recognized what a beautiful day it was today in Washington, D.C. in fact, the weatherman, as I drove in this morning, said it was the nicest day that he remembers in our Nation's Capital. Two years ago it was very different. The view across the Potomac, as I evacuated as a Member of the House leadership down 295, was all black over the Pentagon and it appeared in fact that the entire cityscape of Washington, D.C. was aflame in smoke and that our government was threatened as we had witnessed only in featured films.

I don't think we will ever forget, any of us, where we were that day or what went through our minds. And in that sense, 2 years ago was very recent. We can always draw it back. For my part, I spent the morning of September 11th, as it happened, at the Pentagon in the private dining room of the Secretary of Defense, Don Rumsfeld. Paul Wolfowitz was there as well, and we were discussing how important it was for Congress to take a different look at our national security to prepare for unconventional threats, not to fight the old wars of the past but to deal with the future. And (1)

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