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DEPARTMENTS OF COMMERCE, JUSTICE, AND
STATE, THE JUDICIARY, AND RELATED
AGENCIES APPROPRIATIONS FOR 2003

HEARINGS

BEFORE A

SUBCOMMITTEE OF THE

COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS

HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
ONE HUNDRED SEVENTH CONGRESS
SECOND SESSION

SUBCOMMITTEE ON THE DEPARTMENTS OF COMMERCE, JUSTICE, AND
STATE, THE JUDICIARY, AND RELATED AGENCIES

FRANK R. WOLF, Virginia, Chairman

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NOTE: Under Committee Rules, Mr. Young, as Chairman of the Full Committee, and Mr. Obey, as Ranking
Minority Member of the Full Committee, are authorized to sit as Members of all Subcommittees.

MIKE RINGLER, CHRISTINE KOJAC, LESLIE ALBRIGHT, and JOHN F. MARTENS

Subcommittee Staff

PART 10

FBI REORGANIZATION

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DEPARTMENTS OF COMMERCE, JUSTICE, AND STATE, THE JUDICIARY, AND RELATED AGENCIES APPROPRIATIONS FOR 2003

HEARINGS

BEFORE A

SUBCOMMITTEE OF THE

COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS

HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

ONE HUNDRED SEVENTH CONGRESS
SECOND SESSION

SUBCOMMITTEE ON THE DEPARTMENTS OF COMMERCE, JUSTICE, AND STATE, THE JUDICIARY, AND RELATED AGENCIES

FRANK R. WOLF, Virginia, Chairman

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NOTE: Under Committee Rules, Mr. Young, as Chairman of the Full Committee, and Mr. Obey, as Ranking Minority Member of the Full Committee, are authorized to sit as Members of all Subcommittees.

MIKE RINGLER, CHRISTINE KOJAC, LESLIE ALBRIGHT, and JOHN F. MARTENS

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COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS

C. W. BILL YOUNG, Florida, Chairman

RALPH REGULA, Ohio
JERRY LEWIS, California
HAROLD ROGERS, Kentucky
JOE SKEEN, New Mexico
FRANK R. WOLF, Virginia
TOM DELAY, Texas

JIM KOLBE, Arizona

SONNY CALLAHAN, Alabama

JAMES T. WALSH, New York

CHARLES H. TAYLOR, North Carolina
DAVID L. HOBSON, Ohio

ERNEST J. ISTOOK, JR., Oklahoma

HENRY BONILLA, Texas

JOE KNOLLENBERG, Michigan
DAN MILLER, Florida

JACK KINGSTON, Georgia

RODNEY P. FRELINGHUYSEN, New Jersey ROGER F. WICKER, Mississippi

GEORGE R. NETHERCUTT, JR., Washington RANDY "DUKE" CUNNINGHAM, California TODD TIAHRT, Kansas

ZACH WAMP, Tennessee

TOM LATHAM, Iowa

ANNE M. NORTHUP, Kentucky
ROBERT B. ADERHOLT, Alabama
JO ANN EMERSON, Missouri
JOHN E. SUNUNU, New Hampshire
KAY GRANGER, Texas

JOHN E. PETERSON, Pennsylvania
JOHN T. DOOLITTLE, California
RAY LAHOOD, Illinois
JOHN E. SWEENEY, New York
DAVID VITTER, Louisiana
DON SHERWOOD, Pennsylvania

VIRGIL H. GOODE, JR., Virginia

DAVID R. OBEY, Wisconsin
JOHN P. MURTHA, Pennsylvania
NORMAN D. DICKS, Washington
MARTIN OLAV SABO, Minnesota
STENY H. HOYER, Maryland

ALAN B. MOLLOHAN, West Virginia
MARCY KAPTUR, Ohio

NANCY PELOSI, California

PETER J. VISCLOSKY, Indiana

NITA M. LOWEY, New York
JOSE E. SERRANO, New York
ROSA L. DELAURO, Connecticut
JAMES P. MORAN, Virginia
JOHN W. OLVER, Massachusetts
ED PASTOR, Arizona

CARRIE P. MEEK, Florida

DAVID E. PRICE, North Carolina
CHET EDWARDS, Texas

ROBERT E. “BUD" CRAMER, JR., Alabama
PATRICK J. KENNEDY, Rhode Island
JAMES E. CLYBURN, South Carolina
MAURICE D. HINCHEY, New York
LUCILLE ROYBAL-ALLARD, California
SAM FARR, California

JESSE L. JACKSON, JR., Illinois
CAROLYN C. KILPATRICK, Michigan
ALLEN BOYD, Florida

CHAKA FATTAH, Pennsylvania
STEVEN R. ROTHMAN, New Jersey

JAMES W. DYER, Clerk and Staff Director

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DEPARTMENTS OF COMMERCE, JUSTICE, AND STATE, THE JUDICIARY, AND RELATED AGENCIES APPROPRIATIONS FOR 2003

FRIDAY, JUNE 21, 2002.

FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION

WITNESSES

ROBERT MUELLER, DIRECTOR, FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION DAVID WALKER, COMPTROLLER GENERAL, GENERAL ACCOUNTING OFFICE

RICHARD THORNBURGH, FBI PROJECT PANEL CHAIR, NATIONAL ACADEMY OF PUBLIC ADMINISTRATION

NANCY SAVAGE, PRESIDENT, FBI AGENTS ASSOCIATION

OPENING REMARKS OF CHAIRMAN WOLF

Mr. WOLF. Good morning. The committee will come to order. I'd like to welcome all the panelists this morning. Our world was changed on September 11th, 2001. Terrorism is no longer something you read about or see on the evening news. It has come to our shores.

More than two dozen people from my Congressional district were killed in the September 11 attacks. My heart goes out to all the families who lost loved ones on that tragic day at the World Trade Center, here and in Pennsylvania. Our Government must do everything in its power to prevent something like 9/11 from happening again. We need to make certain that America is safe and secure against terrorism. This is not a Republican issue or a Democratic issue. Only by working together will we be able to win the war against terrorism.

THE FBI'S REORGANIZATION PLANS

The Federal Bureau of Investigation today finds itself in a central role in the fight against terrorism. The focus of today's hearing is the FBI's reorganization plan. This Subcommittee has the jurisdiction over the FBI and must approve the reprogramming of any appropriated funds for the Bureau. We owe it to the American people to be more than just a rubber stamp for the plan.

Before I comment further on the proposed reorganization, I want it on the record that I have the highest respect for the thousands of FBI employees serving their country, both in the United States and abroad. I know many of them. They are extremely dedicated and work incredibly long hours to protect their country and their fellow citizens.

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