A. He did believe it; but a just knowledge is a foreknowledge. But I am unfortunate in answering, and not asking his foreknowledge. Q. Do you believe that God is a spirit? A. He is.

Q. In what did the image of man consist when he was created?

A. The image of man consists in this: not as God, for God is a spirit. God says, let man be created, and let him have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowls of the air, and over the cattle, and over the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. Here was the image of God in man, sir as God was supreme in heaven, so man was supreme on earth; and, as God is a religious and holy being, so let man be religious and holy also, &c.

Q. Had the soul of man a will when it was created?

A. When man was created, he had no soul. [A laugh he wishes to explain himself.]

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When God created the world, sir, it was not all done at one stroke. There were several creations. He created the light; that was one stroke. Then he created the firmament, and the waters; and that was another stroke.-And then he divided the waters from the dry land; and made the sea, and the grass, and the trees, and the herbs; and that was another stroke, &c. &c. And then he made man out of the dust of the earth; and, when he made him, sir, he lay like

an immoveable statue; he could not speak, he could not move his tongue, nor his hands, nor his feet; and this was another stroke.-And then the Lord breathed into him the breath of life, and he became a living soul; this was an❤ other stroke.-After this, he walked with his countenance erect; and, if he had not walked, God never would have lent him his feet; and, if he would not chew his victuals, God would not do it for him; and, if he would not breathe, God would not lend him his nostrils; if he would not see, God would not lend him his eyes. [Then sitting down, he starts up.] That is not all, sir; after God had made man, he sent a deep sleep upon him, and then he took one of his ribs, and out of that he made a woman, and that was another stroke.

Q. When all the creations were finished, had man a soul then?

A. After God breathed into him the breath of life, he became a living soul, &c.

Q. When the soul of man was inactive, did it possess a will within it, at that time?

A. It did.

Q. Does this will influence man's conduct?

A. His will does in some measure; but not that alone; he has other senses besides, &c. &c.; and with his senses he foresees and provides, &c, &c.

Q. Does a man act as he wishes to do; or, is he voluntary in his actions, for which he is ac. countable?

A. No, sir: in some cases, man does not act according to his will. For instance, give a man a portion of physic, and let it be ever so against his appetite, yet, for his temporal good, he takes it, &c.

Q. Does he drink it of his own free will, or is it poured down him?

A. Sometimes it is poured down him, and sometimes he drinks it against his will; and, in many instances, he is tried to have certain operations performed upon him, because he thinks it will be for his good, &c. &c.

Q. Turn to the Methodist Discipline, third section, twenty-seventh paragraph,* [it reads,] "we believe that in the moment Adam fell, he had no freedom of will left, but that God, when of his own free grace he gave the promise of a Saviour to him and his posterity, graciously restored to mankind a liberty and power to accept of proffered salvation." Q. Do you believe this?

A. Yes, sir; perfectly so, sir.

Q. Has God pledged himself to pardon every sinner, let his crimes be ever so great?

A. He has promised to pardon every sinner that repents.

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'Q, Has man a power to repent, as long as he lives?

A. Yes, sir, while his day of grace lasts.

The only method by which I could get from him a single idea, which the people would readily understand, was, by turning him to their discipline.

Q. If a man swear away his neighbour's life, can he not turn and repent; when is this power taken from him?

A. He may, or he may not. His own will prevents him. He may repent at any time, as hope, and fear, and joy, preponderate, &c. If God send a message of pardon, the sinner must accept of this pardon, &c. God may pardon a man, when he will not pardon his family, and every body at the same time, &c.

Q. Cannot a sinner turn and repent at any time?

A. God's plans are not confined to particulars, but are of the universal kind. If an offer is made to men, they will accept of the present rather than the future; but, in the eternal world, they will take up the cross without shame, &c. &c.

Q. Who determines the will in man to good; does God do it, or does man himself ?*

A. The will is the wish of the mind. There is an outward will, and an inward will. The devil, &c.; and the flesh, &c.; and Adam, &c; [no more recorded by the clerks.]

Q. Tell us, does God determine the will, or man?

A. The providence of God takes in all men. Thelo and volo, &c. &c.

This question lies at the foundation of all the points in dispute, therefore I strove to have him give an explicit answer, but the reader may see that he would not de it.

Q. When the prophets of Baal, in the days of Abab, appeared before Elijah, and the people all cried out, and turned unto the Lord, who determined their wills on that occasion?

A. I have an answer for that, as big as a house. [Then, a long story was told about the miracle which Elijah wrought, which he inferred, converted the people.]

Q. What is the cause of these revivals of religion in many churches, in this our day; as has been the case, in my congregation, and some others, this last winter? Persons who have enjoyed for many years the same opportunity of hearing the gospel, have had the same preachers, and the same doctrines preached unto them, yet never attended to religion, until then. What is the cause of this?

A. The Lord sends prosperity, and he prevents second causes: he sends afflictions.Sometimes men repent when they see their coffin, the winding-sheet, and the grave. There are a variety of causes. For instance; a man going to market, receives a great price for his produce, which influences his heart with grateful praise; and many again refuse to be profited. Some, again, have a great stock of grain; and, in thanks thereof, turn from the evil of their ways. Some in affliction: before I was afflicted, I went astray, says David. Good will be wrought under the power of persecution, &c. But the word of God is quick and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged