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April 29, 1971

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

Office of the White House Press Secretary

THE WHITE HOUSE

The President today announced that Vicki L. Keller and Sallyanne Payton are joining the staff of the Domestic Council as Associates. They will be full time staff members working with various Departments and Agencies in the formation of domestic policy and programs.

Miss Keller, a native of Oakland, California, has been a senior associate with McKinsey & Co., a New York based international management consulting firm, since 1966. She is a Fhi Beta Kappa graduate of the University of California (1964) and she was in the top third of her class at Harvard Business School where she earned an MBA in 1966. She resides in New York City.

Miss Payton has been a lawyer with the Washington, D. C., firm of Covington & Burling for the past two and one-half years. She is serving as a member of the Committee on Federal Legislation of the Health and Welfare Council and has been working for the past year with a community organization funded by the District of Columbia Narcotics Treatment Administration to operate a drug addiction rehabilitation center. Born in Los Angeles, Miss Payton earned a B. A. with honors at Stanford University in 1964. She received her LL. B. from Stanford Law School in 1968 and was elected a member of the Board of Editors of the Stanford Law Review. She resides in Washington, D. C..

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Mr. INK. One thing I would like to point out is that the Domestic Council is not the vehicle we are looking to for the development of social indicators. I had reference to the Domestic Council more with respect to the development of priorities and goals.

Senator MONDALE. Yes.

Mr. INK. The Council of course is made up of the Department heads and is chaired by the President. What you have reference to is the staff, I believe.

Senator MONDALE. Yes, it is the staff of the Council I am talking about.

Mr. INK. The work on the social indicators being developed in the Office of Management and Budget with most of the developmental work being done through other agencies, such as the National Science Foundation, is a far more technical activity than would be carried out by the staff of the Domestic Council. I might also mention that Dr. David of the Office of Science and Technology also has an interest in the developmental area. Here, as we see it, we are really on the threshold stage.

Senator MONDALE. Mr. Shiskin is the staff man in charge of coordinating that?

Mr. INK. Yes, sir; under the direction of Arnold Weber who is the Associate Director of the Office of Management and Budget. He is not in the country today or he would have been here testifying.

Senator MONDALE. Very well. We always expect incumbent administrations to opose this proposal so I won't push you any further on that. When and if the Governments are out of office, they usually come in and testify for it. That was true of the Johnson administration and I am sure it will be true of this one. Thank you very much.

Mr. INK. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, if it would be of interest to the committee, we would be happy, outside the hearing to go into more depth on the work that is underway.

Senator MONDALE. If you would submit for the record any more expanded information on this we would be glad to include it in the record because we would be interested in knowing what work you are doing. Thank you very much.

(The prepared statement of Mr. Ink follows:)

EXECUTIVE OFFICE OF THE PRESIDENT
OFFICE OF MANAGEMENT AND BUDGET
WASHINGTON, D.C. 20503

STATEMENT OF DWIGHT A. INK

ASSISTANT DIRECTOR FOR OFFICE OF MANAGEMENT AND BUDGET
BEFORE THE SPECIAL SUBCOMMITTEE ON EVALUATION AND
PLANNING OF SOCIAL PROGRAMS OF THE SENATE

COMMITTEE ON LABOR AND PUBLIC WELFARE ON S.5,
"THE FULL OPPORTUNITY AND NATIONAL GOALS AND PRIORITIES ACT"

Mr. Chairman and Members of the Subcommittee:

I appreciate the opportunity to appear before the Subcommittee to express the views of the Administration with respect to bill

S.5

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the Full Opportunity and National Goals and Priorities Act.

I don't imagine that anyone now seriously questions the need for greater emphasis on the formulation of National goals and priorities. The increasing proportion of the Federal budget that is being devoted to Federal domestic social programs underscores the importance of finding ways to obtain the best and most realistic assessment of our current social condition, and of developing the goals designed to correct and improve the social environment for all of our people. S.5 deals with the crucial matters of how both the Congress and the President can obtain the best possible advice and counsel about the social environment. These proposals take us to the heart

of the matter, as far as the Federal establishment is concerned,

and I believe that the Hearings on this bill and its predecessors will

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aid substantially in sharpening our thinking on how best to meet this crucial need. We support the intent of S. 5 and are very sympathetic with the desire to find more effective means for both the Executive and Legislative branches to assess our social condition, although we do not agree with some of the machinery that is proposed. I must confess that I appear before the Subcommittee this morning with questions as well as some suggested answers. My principal area of concern is to evaluate the organization and management implications of the new mechanism proposed by S. 5 from the point of view of the Executive Branch, and to compare them to how the processes of social advice, goal setting and priority determination operate at the present time.

First, I would like to discuss the proposal for establishment

of a Council of Social Advisers, as stated in Title III of the bill, and how this proposal related to the way in which the President now seeks and obtains advice and counsel on social concerns;

Second, I would like to relate that discussion to the need for the annual Social Report to the Nation as proposed in Title II of S. 5;

Third, I would like to describe the work now being done on the development and use of social indicators in the Federal establishment;

and

Finally, I would like to offer a brief observation from an Executive Branch point of view, with respect to the proposal to establish an Office of National Goals and Priorities within the

Congress.

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Council of Social Advisers

The proposal in Section 103 of S. 5 for a Council of Social Advisers raises the important question of whether or not the President should have such a Council as the principal means by which he obtains advice about social concerns. The name and some points of similarity

invite comparison with the present Council of Economic Advisers and I think many people would feel that since social concerns are at least as important as economic concerns, a similar Council should

be established.

I can't personally give the Subcommittee a full and complete answer to all facets of this very complex and important proposal. I can however speak to the concern this concept raises in terms of the present functioning of the Executive Office of the President and attempt to answer the questions "Is a Council of Social Advisers now needed by the President? and Would such a Council be better than what we now have?"

I'm sure that you will recall that about one year ago, the Congress approved the creation within the Executive Office of the Domestic Council, which was intended in large part to give the President a greater capacity to obtain orderly and well considered advice and counsel on domestic matters, drawn primarily from the Cabinet Secretaries of the Federal departments and agencies most concerned. I believe that this approach has served to fill much of the gap that I believe a Council of Social Advisers is aimed at. I believe also that it does so with some real advantages which a Council would not possess.

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