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TESTIMONY OF RUTH COSTELLO, DANCER, EARL CARROLL
THEATER

(The witness was duly sworn.)

Mr. MCCANN. Please state your name and your address.
Miss COSTELLO. Miss Ruth Costello, 44121⁄2 Kingswell Avenue.
Mr. MCCANN. By whom are you employed?

Miss COSTELLO. Mr. Earl Carroll.

Mr. McCANN. In what capacity?

Miss COSTELLO. I am a dancer with my sister.

Mr. MCCANN. How long have you been there?

Miss COSTELLO. Four years.

Mr. MCCANN. Please tell Mr. Kearns of the committee what your experience has been since you have been there with Mr. Carroll. Do you like him as an employer or want him closed down?

Miss COSTELLO. No; definitely not. We have always been very amiable there. As my sister said, we would have to go to New York if the place closed, and it would be very inconvenient for us.

Mr. MCCANN. Is there any other place in the country where you could have held a job such as you have there for 4 years?

Miss COSTELLO. "No, sir; I don't believe so.

Mr. MCCANN. Have you been working there 52 weeks a year for 4 years?

Miss COSTELLO. That is right.

Mr. MCCANN. There isn't any other stage show in the world that you know of, is there, where you could have steady employment of that kind?

Miss COSTELLO. Not that I am familiar with.

Mr. MCCANN. I think that is all, Mr. Chairman.

Mr. KEARNS. I have no questions.

Mr. MCCANN. Miss Richey.

TESTIMONY OF HELEN JEAN RICHEY, SKATER, EARL CARROLL

THEATER

(The witness was duly sworn.)

Mr. MCCANN. Please state your full name, Miss Richey.

Miss RICHEY. Miss Helen Jean Richey.

Mr. MCCANN. Where do you reside?

Miss RICHEY. 6231 Afton Place, Hollywood.

Mr. MCCANN. Where are you employed?

Miss RICHEY. Earl Carroll's Theater.

Mr. MCCANN. How long have you been employed there?

Miss RICHEY. Five years.

Mr. MCCANN. Did he employ you out of the cradle?

Miss RICHEY. Not exactly, no.

Mr. MCCANN. Jean, what do you do?

Miss RICHEY. I am a roller skater.

Mr. MCCANN. You are a roller skater?
Miss RICHEY. Yes.

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Mr. MCCANN. And had you ever worked anywhere else before you started to work for Mr. Carroll?

Miss RICHEY. I did. I traveled quite a bit in and out of the country.

Mr. MCCANN. Have you ever had any other place where you got employment for 52 weeks a year?

Miss RICHEY. No, I haven't had; and there is nowhere, as far as I know, where all the people I work with, such as several out there who have been in the business for years and years, and there is no place to compare to it, I don't think, anywhere.

Mr. MCCANN. You don't think there is any place to compare with Earl Carroll's?

Miss RICHEY. Not as far as easiness. Everyone is so friendly, it is just a happy atmosphere. There is no trouble and no pain, no strain.

Mr. MCCANN. Now, Miss Jean, will you tell us what it would mean to you if Earl Carroll's Theater should close?

Miss RICHEY. Well, it would mean that we would have to go back on the road for 4 weeks here and 2 weeks there, and pack and unpack, which would be very inconvenient.

Mr. MCCANN. You are rather desirous then that Mr. Carroll should continue in business?

Miss RICHEY. You know I am.

You know we all are. Mr. MCCANN. Thank you very much.

Mr. KEARNS. Miss Richey, you state that the feeling among the workers there at Earl Carroll's is very cordial?

Miss RICHEY. Oh, yes.

Mr. KEARNS. And it has always been your opinion that the members of the orchestra are cooperative with people like yourself? Miss RICHEY. Oh, yes; we have never had any trouble.

Mr. KEARNS. And do you think it is possible that many of these difficulties can be worked out so everybody will have no troubles in the future?

Miss RICHEY. I think that if everyone would just be fair and be honest about it, I don't see why there shouldn't be some agreement made.

Mr. KEARNS. That is all.

Mr. MCCANN. Miss Beryl Wallace.

TESTIMONY OF BERYL WALLACE, LEADING LADY, EARL
CARROLL THEATER

(The witness was duly sworn.)

Mr. MCCANN. Please state your full name and address.

Miss WALLACE. Beryl Wallace, 8358 Sunset Boulevard, Los Angeles. Mr. MCCANN. Are you employed?

Miss WALLACE. Well, yes; I am.

Mr. MCCANN. Where are you employed?

Miss WALLACE. At the Earl Carroll Theater, Hollywood.

Mr. MCCANN. How long have you been employed there, Miss Wallace?

Miss WALLACE. I hate to say, but it is 9 years.

Mr. MCCANN. You didn't work before you came there, then?
Miss WALLACE. Can I say five—

Mr. MCCANN. What is your position there?

Miss WALLACE. Well, I guess I am leading lady, I hope.

Mr. MCCANN. And have you been in the theatrical business for many years?

Miss WALLACE. Well, yes; I have been in the theater since I was about 13 years old.

Mr. MCCANN. You had worked for a great many theaters, then, in New York or elsewhere, I guess, before you came here?

Miss WALLACE. I worked in New York and I have worked in Philadelphia. I have only worked in the United States. I have never worked abroad.

Mr. MCCANN. Do you like working for Mr. Carroll?

Miss WALLACE. I love it.

Mr. MCCANN. And you would be considerably put out if the Earl Carroll Theater closed?

Miss WALLACE. I think I would retire.

Mr. MCCANN. What would happen if the theater closed? Could you find another place in this area where you could get 52 weeks of employment a year?

Miss WALLACE. I don't think I could find 52 weeks of work in any

area.

Mr. MCCANN. And you have had that for 9 years here?

Miss WALLACE. Yes.

Mr. MCCANN. That is all, Mr. Chairman.

Mr. KEARNS. Miss Wallace, as leading lady, as you say you are there, do you find a good attitude among everyone that works there-I mean all the girls and all the other employees?

Miss WALLACE. Well, I have worked in quite a few very wonderful places in the East and for very fine producers, and I have done picture work and radio work, but in the theater there is more of a feeling of family-it is not work. I really have never seen any place where people are interested in each other, not only as workers but as friends. Mr. KEARNS. You don't find any grumbling around back of the and so forth?

scenes,

Miss WALLACE. No.

Mr. KEARNS. Everybody likes their work?

Miss WALLACE. Everybody loves their work.

Mr. KEARNS. That is all.

Mr. MCCANN. Thank you very much, Miss Wallace.

Miss Velma Cragin.

TESTIMONY OF VELMA CRAGIN, SHOWGIRL, EARL CARROLL

THEATER

(The witness was duly sworn.)

Mr. MCCANN. Please state your name and your address, Miss Velma. Miss CRAGIN. Velma Cragin, 48213 Avenue 28.

Mr. MCCANN. Where are you employed?

Miss CRAGIN. Earl Carroll Theater Restaurant.
Mr. MCCANN. How long have you been there?
Miss CRAGIN. Almost 7 years now.

Mr. MCCANN. Have you ever worked in the theater elsewhere?

Miss CRAGIN. Well, no.

Mr. MCCANN. This is your only theatrical experience?

Miss CRAGIN. Yes.

Mr. MCCANN. Do you like it there?

Miss CRAGIN. Oh, I love it. It is wonderful.

Mr. MCCANN. What would it mean to you if the Earl Carroll Theater were closed?

Miss CRAGIN. Well, I really haven't thought of it as a possibility. I can't understand how it could possibly be.

Mr. MCCANN. Is there any place in this area where the work that you now do, where you could continue in the same activity?

Miss CRAGIN. Not possibly. There is just no chance of it at all.
Mr. MCCANN. What do you do in the show, Miss Velma?
Miss CRAGIN. I am a showgirl.

Mr. MCCANN. You are one of the chorus?

Miss CRAGIN. That is right.

Mr. MCCANN. And there isn't any other place in town where you could secure employment for 52 weeks a year?

Miss CRAGIN. Well, there would be the Florentine, but it is not exactly a possibility even there, because the conditions are not the same and the job would not be the same at all.

Mr. MCCANN. Do you know anything at all about the comparable pay at the Florentine of the girls in your position, what it would be there?

Miss CRAGIN. I think it is more, but they work harder. They have two shows the same as we do, but they don't have the same environment and I understand the people are not as wonderful to work for. Mr. MCCANN. I understand when you say "wonderful to work for", you must like Earl Carroll.

Miss CRAGIN. I do.

Mr. MCCANN. Anything else, Mr. Chairman?

Mr. KEARNS. As a member of the chorus, do you think all the girls are very well satisfied with the employment there?

Miss CRAGIN. Oh, yes; there is a main percentage that stays there a long time.

Mr. KEARNS. But I mean lots of times we find things going on behind the scenes, people are nice to people's faces, you know, and then when they get backstage they do a little talking.

Miss CRAGIN. No; we are not prompted when we say that, as far as that is concerned, and we all are saying exactly as we feel, I am sure of that.

Mr. KEARNS. That is all.

Mr. MCCANN. Miss Constance Peel.

TESTIMONY OF CONSTANCE HALLETTE PEEL, SHOWGIRL, EARL CARROLL THEATER

(The witness was duly sworn.)

Mr. MCCANN. Will you please state your name?

Miss PEEL. Constance Hallette Peel.

Mr. MCCANN. Where do you reside?

Miss PEEL. 1248 North Las Palmas Avenue, Hollywood, Calif. Mr. MCCANN. How long have you resided there?

Miss PEEL. About 2 years.

Mr. MCCANN. How long have you been employed by Mr. Carroll? Miss PEEL. Two and a half years.

Mr. MCCANN. Were you in the show business before that?

Miss PEEL. No.

Mr. MCCANN. In other words, the only show you have ever worked for is the Earl Carroll Theater Restaurant?

Miss PEEL. That is right.

Mr. MCCANN. What do you do there, Miss Peel?

Miss PEEL. I am a showgirl.

Mr. MCCANN. And are you satisfied with your employment there? Miss PEEL. Extremely satisfied.

Mr. MCCANN. If for any reason Mr. Carroll should close the show, do you know where you could get comparable work and wages? Miss PEEL. There is not a chance; no.

Mr. MCCANN. It is your earnest desire, then, that there should be no labor relations difficulties there that would close the place up? Miss PEEL. That is right.

Mr. MCCANN. Have you had any complaints, yourself, against the management.

Miss PEEL. Not one; no.

Mr. MCCANN. Is the atmosphere and the attitude of the girls friendly toward the management?

Miss PEEL. Very friendly.

Mr. MCCANN. That is all, Mr. Chairman.

Mr. KEARNS. That is all.

Miss PEEL. Thank you.

Mr. MCCANN. Miss Rosemary Nelson.

TESTIMONY OF ROSEMARY NELSON, SHOWGIRL, EARL CARROLL

THEATER

(The witness was duly sworn.)

Mr. MCCANN. Please state your name and address, Miss Nelson. Miss NELSON. Rosemary Nelson, 265 South Manhattan Place, Los Angeles.

Mr. MCCANN. How long have you lived there?

Miss NELSON. Two years.

Mr. MCCANN. How long have you worked for Mr. Earl Carroll's Theater and Restaurant?

Miss NELSON. Four and a half years.

Mr. MCCANN. What do you do there?

Miss NELSON. Showgirl.

Mr. MCCANN. And have you ever worked in any other show?

Miss NELSON. No.

Mr. MCCANN. You started with Earl Carroll?

Miss NELSON. Yes; I did.

Mr. MCCANN. And do you like your job?

Miss NELSON. Yes; I do.

Mr. MCCANN. If the show should close for any reason, do you know where you could get a comparable wage in some other employment such as you have there?

Miss NELSON. No.

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