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Mr. MCCANN. In other words, that being the only job you have ever had, you don't know where else you would find one; is that it? Miss NELSON. That is right.

Mr. McCANN. Is there a friendly or unfriendly atmosphere among the employees and Mr. Carroll?

Miss NELSON. Friendly.

Mr. MCCANN. A very friendly attitude?

Miss NELSON. Yes.

Mr. MCCANN. Have you ever had anything to kick about?

Miss NELSON. No; I have not.

Mr. MCCANN. You like your job?

Miss NELSON. Yes; I do.

Mr. MCCANN. Want to keep it?

Miss NELSON. Yes.

Mr. MCCANN. That is all, Mr. Chairman.

Mr. KEARNS. That is all.

Mr. MCCANN. Miss Pamela Van Schoor.

TESTIMONY OF PALMELA VAN SCHOOR, SHOWGIRL, EARL CARROLL THEATER

(The witness was duly sworn.)

Mr. MCCANN. Please state your name and your residence. Miss VAN SCHOOR. Pamela Van Schoor, 831 North Eucalyptus, Inglewood, Calif.

Mr. MCCANN. How long have you lived there?

Miss VAN SCHOOR. About 3 years.

Mr. MCCANN. You are employed by Earl Carroll?

Miss VAN SCHOOR. I am.

Mr. MCCANN. How long have you been so employed?

Miss VAN SCHOOR. A little less than a year.

Mr. MCCANN. What do you do?

Miss VAN SCHOOR. I am a showgirl.

Mr. MCCANN. Have you worked anywhere else?

Miss VAN SCHOOR. No.

Mr. MCCANN. This is the first job you ever had?

Miss VAN SCHOOR. Yes; it is.

Mr. MCCANN. You like it?

Miss VAN SCHOOR. Yes; very much so.

Mr. MCCANN. And you want to keep it?

Miss VAN SCHOOR. Yes.

Mr. MCCANN. Have you had any criticism of the treatment you have had out there?

Miss VAN SCHOOR. None whatever.

Mr. MCCANN. Haven't had any labor difficulties of your own? Miss VAN SCHOOR. NO.

Mr. MCCANN. Do you know where you could find comparable employment, wages and hours, and working conditions, if Earl Carroll's show should cease to be?

Miss VAN SCHOOR. No; I don't.

Mr. MCCANN. That is all, Mr. Chairman.

Mr. KEARNS. No questions.

Mr. MCCANN. Miss Virginia Dew.

TESTIMONY OF VIRGINIA DEW, SINGER, EARL CARROLL THEATER

(The witness was duly sworn).

Mr. MCCANN. Miss Virginia, please state your name and your address.

Miss DEW. Virginia Dew, 265 South Manhattan Place.

Mr. MCCANN. How long have you resided there?

Miss DEW. About 14 months, I think.

Mr. MCCANN. How long have you worked for Mr. Earl Carroll? Miss DEW. Two years this month.

Mr. MCCANN. Where did you work before that?

Miss DEW. Oh, I did a little singing in Dallas and Fort Worth, and that is about all.

Mr. MCCANN. A little singing in Dallas and Fort Worth. Are you from Texas?

Miss DEW. I am.

Mr. MCCANN. Did you have comparable wages down in Dallas before you came up here?

Miss DEW. No; well, I guess for Dallas, yes, I did; but it wasn't much to speak of.

Mr. MCCANN. How long did you work there?

Miss Dew. Oh, I guess 2 years, I think.

Mr. MCCANN. In Dallas?

Miss DEW. Yes.

Mr. MCCANN. Did you have 52 weeks a year there?
Miss DEW. I did not.

Mr. MCCANN. How much did you work a year?

Miss DEW. Oh, sometimes we only worked a week, next I worked maybe 3 or 4 weeks. That depends. I had to go from place to place.

Mr. MCCANN. In other words, it was interrupted employment and did not go on from week to week. Since you have been here you have been working 52 weeks a year?

Miss DEW. I have.

Mr. MCCANN. Do you like that?

Miss DEW. I love it, I should say.

Mr. MCCANN. Do you get along with Mr. Carroll?

Miss DEW. Very well.

Mr. MCCANN. You haven't any labor relations complaints then to make to the committee?

Miss DEW. Absolutely not.

Mr. MCCANN. You would like for his place of business to continue to operate?

Miss DEW. By all means.

Mr. MCCANN. That is all, Mr. Chairman.

Mr. KEARNS. That is all.

Mr. MCCANN. Miss Jeannette Donnell.

TESTIMONY OF JEANNETTE DONNELL, SHOWGIRL, EARL CARROLL

THEATER

(The witness was duly sworn.)

Mr. MCCANN. Please state your name and your address.
Miss DONNELL. Jeanette Donnell, 622 Oxford.

Mr. MCCANN. How long have you resided there?

Miss DONNELL. About 2 months.

Mr. MCCANN. How long have you been employed by Mr. Carroll? Miss DONNELL. Eight months.

Mr. MCCANN. Where were you employed before that, Miss Donnell? Miss DONNELL. I wasn't.

Mr. MCCANN. You were not?

Miss DONNELL. No.

Mr. MCCANN. You mean this is your first engagement there.

Miss DONNELL, Yes.

Mr. MCCANN. Are you one of the chorus?

Miss DONNELL. Yes.

Mr. MCCANN. And you have never danced in any

Miss DONNELL. No.

other show?

Mr. MCCANN. Do you like your employment there?
Miss DONNELL. Yes; very much.

Mr. MCCANN. You haven't had any cause to complain about your treatment from Mr. Carroll?

Miss DONNELL. No; I have not.

Mr. MCCANN. Would it be inconvenient for you if that place should close for any reason?

Miss DONNELL. Yes; it would.

Mr. MCCANN. Do you know where you could get similar employment and wages, hours, and working conditions?

Miss DONNELL. No.

Mr. MCCANN. Then you are rather disposed to wish that Earl Carroll can continue in business?

Miss DONNELL. That is right.

Mr. MCCANN. I think that it all, sir.

Mr. KEARNS. No questions.

Mr. MCCANN. Miss Claire Dodson.

TESTIMONY OF CLAIRE DODSON, SINGER, EARL CARROLL THEATER

(The witness was duly sworn.)

Mr. MCCANN. Please state your full name and your address.
Miss DODSON. Claire Dodson, 265 South Manhattan Place.
Mr. MCCANN. How long have you lived there, Miss Claire?
Miss DODSON. A year and a half—a year.

Mr. MCCANN. How long have you been employed by Earl Carroll?
Miss DODSON. Two and a half years.

Mr. MCCANN. In what capacity?

Miss DODSON. I sing with a trio.

Mr. MCCANN. You sing with a trio. And have you ever had any other employment?

Miss DODSON. Not theatrical.

Mr. MCCANN. Not theatrical. You have never, then, been either a showgirl or a dancer or in that line of work anywhere else and you don't have any comparison that you can make between Earl Carroll's and some other place?

Miss DODSON. No; I haven't.

Mr. MCCANN. Do you enjoy working for the Earl Carroll Theater and Restaurant?

Miss DODSON. Yes.

Mr. MCCANN. Have your relations been pleasant with the management there?

Miss DODSON. Very pleasant.

Mr. MCCANN. Have you had any complaint as to hours, wages, or working conditions?

Miss DODSON. No.

Mr. MCCANN. What would you do if the Earl Carroll Theater should close?

Miss DODSON. I wouldn't stay in the show business.

Mr. MCCANN. You wouldn't stay in the show business? Do you have some other plans?

Miss DODSON. I might.

Mr. MCCANN. Well, would you mind telling the chairman whether you know of any other position where you could work for similar or as good wages, hours, and so forth, as you have there?

Miss DODSON. I don't believe there are any.

Mr. MCCANN. You don't believe there are. You sort of like the job then?

Miss DODSON. I do, or I wouldn't be there that long.

Mr. MCCANN. That is all, Mr. Chairman.

Mr. KEARNS. That is all.

Mr. MCCANN. Now, Mr. Chairman, at this time I would like to ask if we can call upon the conductor or the contractor to produce the orchestra here in the morning. I would like to ask them some similar questions. Could that be done, sir?

Mr. EMME. Yes; sure.

Mr. MCCANN. We won't subpena them, but if it is agreeable we would like to see how the orchestra likes their job out there.

Mr. KEARNS. Mr. Counsel, I don't think we need them all here. You have 15 men. You tell 7 or 8 of them to come down. You have some that would like to sleep in the morning, probably.

Mr. MCCANN. Including the leader-bring down seven or eight including the leader. Thank you so much for doing that, sir, and it will save the subpena business.

Now, Mr. Chairman, I think that completes the witnesses this after

noon.

Mr. EMME. Mr. Klein was the man you didn't have.

Mr. MCCANN. Is he here?

Mr. EMME. Yes.

Mr. MCCANN. Well, Mr. Klein, we will call you, then.

TESTIMONY OF DAVID KLEIN, MUSICIAN, FORMER CONTRACTOR AT EARL CARROLL THEATER

(The witness was duly sworn.)

Mr. MCCANN. Mr. Klein, what is your business or occupation?
Mr. KLEIN. I am a musician.

Mr. MCCANN. You are what?

Mr. KLEIN. A musician.

Mr. MCCANN. Where do you live, sir?

Mr. KLEIN. 3485 Clearview Drive, Hollywood 28.
Mr. MCCANN. How long have you lived there, sir?
Mr. KLEIN. I have been there for 6 months.

Mr. MCCANN. Do you have a telephone?

Mr. KLEIN. Yes, sir.

Mr. MCCANN. Let's get his telephone number here so in case we want to call him.

Mr. KLEIN. Hollywood 7465.

Mr. MCCANN. Mr. Klein, you say you are a musician!

Mr. KLEIN. Yes, sir.

Mr. MCCANN. Do you occupy a position with the American Federation of Musicians locally?

Mr. KLEIN. No, sir.

Mr. MCCANN. Where do you play?

Mr. KLEIN. Right now I am doing radio commercial broadcasts. Mr. MCCANN. Where, for whom?

Mr. KLEIN. I do the Roma Wine program on Thursday, the Equitable Life Insurance program on Friday, and the Lucky Strike show on Sunday.

Mr. MCCANN. In other words, you are serving on three different orchestras; is that correct?

Mr. KLEIN. Yes, sir.

Mr. MCCANN. And you have no regular day-by-day position?
Mr. KLEIN. No, sir.

Mr. MCCANN. Now, in those orchestras, those are all broadcasts, aren't they?

Mr. KLEIN. Yes, sir.

Mr. MCCANN. You are in the broadcasting field?

Mr. KLEIN. Righto.

Mr. MCCANN. Have you had anything at all to do with contracting with Earl Carroll at his theater?

Mr. KLEIN. I went to work at Earl Carroll's Theater the night it opened.

Mr. MCCANN. Yes.

Mr. KLEIN. Christmas Eve of 1938. I was there until September 1941, and left there, resigning my position there, on account of my health.

Mr. MCCANN. On account of your health?

Mr. KLEIN. Yes, sir.

Mr. MCCANN. You worked for Mr. Earl Carroll at one time for approximately 3 years.

Mr. KLEIN. Yes, sir.

Mr. MCCANN. Were your relations pleasant while you were there? Mr. KLEIN. Very much.

Mr. MCCANN. You had no dispute with Earl Carroll as to wages, hours, or working conditions?

Mr. KLEIN. No; none at all.

Mr. MCCANN. Were you at that time the leader?

Mr. KLEIN. Contractor. I was the orchestra manager or contractor.

Mr. MCCANN. You were contracting, and you held that position nearly 3 years.

Mr. KLEIN. Yes, sir.

Mr. MCCANN. Who succeeded you as the contractor?

Mr. KLEIN. A man by the name of George Hill.

Mr. MCCANN. Who succeeded Mr. Hill?

Mr. KLEIN. Mr. Ward Archer.

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