A great many things have been said here that I thought were not good points, but I want to keep it open now for any reasonable testimony.

Senator THURMOND. Mr. Chairman, you remember the night Mr. Sylvester was here, we ran late and we didn't quite get through with

him.

Senator STENNIS. We will get him back.

Senator THURMOND. We just agreed to put Mr. Atkinson's statement in the record without calling him, just put his statement in the record.

Senator STENNIS. I would want to see his statement because somewhere I got the idea that he was attempting to evaluate the testimony. Senator THURMOND. I think I mentioned to you I wanted to bring somebody for that purpose. I think I mentioned to Mr. Kendall that I might want to use him for that purpose. But the statement doesn't do that, and that will save time, if that will help any.

Senator STENNIS. Let the two of us look over Mr. Atkinson's statement and, perhaps, that will settle it. We will put it in the record, and we won't have to call him.

I learn that Mr. Sylvester is not in his office.
We are through with Mr. Ball, is that correct?
Senator THURMOND. Yes, Mr. Chairman.

EXPRESSION OF APPRECIATION TO BALL

Senator STENNIS. All right, Mr. Secretary, with the thanks of the subcommittee you are excused.

Mr. BALL. Mr. Chairman, there were two or three questions that Senator Thurmond asked on which we have prepared answers under an agreement with him. If my staff can work with Mr. Kendall we will get the answers supplied for the record.

Senator STENNIS. Send those in.

Senator THURMOND. The questions you wanted answered in execu tive session, you can send them to Mr. Kendall.

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Mr. BALL. There were some I said that I would want to so answer. Senator THURMOND. Thank you, Mr. Secretary.

Senator STENNIS. Thank you, Mr. Secretary.

Senator Thurmond, perhaps the probabilities are that there won't anyone here at the hearing tomorrow anyway, even if we can get it in. But suppose we take a chance on getting Mr. Sylvester here at 9 o'clock. We can at least question him from 9 until 10. I have got to go then to Appropriations; and you and I both have to go to Armed Services tomorrow afternoon.

Senator THURMOND. Since this is the last witness, Mr. Chairman, frankly we have, as you know, from the work we have done here, we have really been working day and night.

Senator STENNIS. You have done a lot of work.

Senator THURMOND. If you could set it for Thursday, give me a day when I can get back

Senator STENNIS. Senator, I will tell you, I think in the interests of all of us, we should get this hearing closed and get on toward a report.

Senator THURMOND. I have got to go to South Carolina over the weekend.

Senator STENNIS. What about the weekend?

Senator THURMOND. I agreed to speak to Boys State Saturday and Sunday.

Senator STENNIS. Let us try to get him in here tomorrow.

Senator THURMOND. Election is Tuesday, and we can finish in a half day or certainly a day anyway with him, I think, and it is my thinking that if we just brought him in either Wednesday or Thursday

Senator STENNIS. If he can be here tomorrow, Senator, let us try to take care of him tomorrow. I believe in keeping the train moving, and we could have him called in, ask him to come back at noon, and then after we get through with the Armed Services Committee, we could finish tomorrow afternoon. If we can't finish tomorrow afternoon, we will finish tomorrow night.

Senator THURMOND. All right. We can start with him in the morning. If we don't get through with him we can carry it over until next week.

Senator STENNIS. All right. We will do the best we can tomorrow. All right, the subcommittee will take a recess subject to the call of the Chair.

(Whereupon, at 6:35 p.m., the subcommittee adjourned, subject to the call of the Chair.)

MILITARY COLD WAR EDUCATION AND SPEECH

REVIEW POLICIES

FRIDAY, JUNE 8, 1962

U.S. SENATE,

SPECIAL PREPAREDNESS SUBCOMMITTEE

OF THE COMMITTEE ON ARMED SERVICES,

Washington, D.C.

The special subcommittee met, pursuant to call, at 9:10 a.m., in room 224, Old Senate Office Building.

Present: Senators Stennis (chairman of the subcommittee), Thurmond, and Bartlett.

Also present: Special subcommittee staff: James T. Kendall, chief counsel.

Senator STENNIS. The subcommittee will please come to order.

Mr. Sylvester, we are glad to have you here, and particularly that you could come in on such short notice. We will proceed now. You remember, we carried over some questions here the night it was snowing.

Mr. Sylvester, there may be other questions Senator Thurmond may have.

Senator THURMOND. He has already been sworn.
Senator STENNIS. Yes.

TESTIMONY OF ARTHUR SYLVESTER, ASSISTANT SECRETARY OF DEFENSE FOR PUBLIC AFFAIRS; ACCOMPANIED BY JOSEPH A. CALIFANO, JR., SPECIAL ASSISTANT TO THE GENERAL COUNSEL, DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE

Resumed

LETTERS TO DOD CONCERNING MILITARY PARTICIPATION IN PUBLIC COLD

WAR ACTIVITIES

Senator THURMOND. The Secretary of Defense told this subcommittee on September 6, 1961, that the Department of Defense had received some 20 to 30 letters in the previous 4 weeks complaining of the military participation in civilian cold war educational projects. The Secretary said:

Many of the complaints have been specific, but relating to the character of a particular problem. Why did the Defense Department appear to be associated with X, a particular individual or a particular program of some kind? Or why did we make available the use of base Y for such and such purposes?

I understand that the answers to these "20-30 letters" were dispatched under your signature. Some were complaints; others were not, such as this letter to Mr. Singleton who had proposed the Ar

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kansas-Louisiana-Texas cold war seminar in question is this: Did you take any action to de the popular demand for, or complaints about, 1 subject of communism?

Mr. SYLVESTER. I do not believe I understand you read it again, please?

Senator THURMOND. I will be glad to repea Mr. SYLVESTER. Thank you.

Senator THURMOND. The Secretary of Def mittee on September 6, 1961, that the Departi ceived some 20 to 30 letters in the previous 4 we military participation in civilian cold war edu Secretary said:

Many of the complaints have been specific, but rel particular problem. Why did the Defense Departme with X, a particular individual or a particular progr.. did we make available the use of base Y for such and

That was a statement of the Secretary of I Now, I understand that the answers to the dispatched under your signature. Some were not such as this letter to Mr. Singleton who ha sas-Louisiana-Texas cold war seminar at Shre Here is a copy of the letter if you wish to see it Do you remember writing Mr. Singleton? Mr. SYLVESTER. I will have to read the lett remember offhand, no. A year ago-my men that.

And your question, Senator?

Senator THURMOND. You remember that lett Mr. SYLVESTER. That refreshes my memory that letter.

Senator THURMOND. You wrote that letter, d Mr. SYLVESTER. Yes, I did.

Senator THURMOND. Now, the question is, di like this?

Mr. SYLVESTER. I imagine I did. As I rec. other letters which I responded to.

Senator THURMOND. Now, Mr. Secretary, to determine the reasons for the popular den about, military speakers on the subject of co.. you explain to us just what you did?

Mr. SYLVESTER. I think, Senator, I would' would relate it to specific instances, then we ea Senator THURMOND. I will be glad to have y instance and tell us what you did.

Mr. SYLVESTER. Frankly, a year later, with surrounding it, I cannot discuss it. I will can get those papers, but without that, I can details or most of the details, for that matter.

If your question is, Did we go into each er own basis? I can assure you we did.

Senator THURMOND. I want to know wheth to determine the reasons for the popular den. about, military speakers in the cold war semina: