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Senator THURMOND. The Intelligence Service in the Defense lishment.

Mr. SYLVESTER. Well, each service has one, and also, we ha Defense Intelligence Agency. None of those has.

Senator THURMOND. Have you had any research made of the of controversy generated following the Glenview, Ill., sen "Education for American Security?"

Mr. SYLVESTER. At no time since I have been in office have ] use or suggested at any time that the intelligence facilities of t: fense Department should be turned on the civilian public.

STANFORD LIBRARIES

PROTEST OF GLENVIEW SEMINAR BY EMERGENCY CIVIL LIBERTI

COMMITTEE
Senator THURMOND. Are you familiar with the seminar h
Glenview, Ill?

Mr. SYLVESTER. I do not know which one, precisely, you a ferring to. I know they have had them out there.

Senator THURMOND. I have here a copy of a letter from the I gency Civil Liberties Committee to the Secretary of the Nary plaining of that seminar. This is what it says:

While this program attempted to present the picture of being a 'school. is littie doubt that in fact it was a propaganda platform for members rightest Christian anti-Communist crusade, the Birch Society and the Na Education Association and other undemocratic groups. We trust that yo give this matter immediate attention and inform us of the actions you have to prevent reoccurrences of such Navy programs.

That letter was written to the Honorable William B. Franke. retary of the Navy, by Clark Forman, director of the Emerg Civil Liberties Committee in New York.

Mr. SYLVESTER. That must have been prior to 1961.
Senator THURMOND. September 23, 1960.
Mr. SYLVESTER. That was the past administration.

Senator THURMOND. Of course, complaints were made of t seminars during the previous administration, just as they have ! made during this administration. What would have been your sponse had you received this letter?

Mr. SYLVESTER. I have not any idea today, Senator. I think first thing I would have done would be to try to establish the fact

Senator THURMOND. What is the status of the Emergency C Liberties Committee?

Mr. SYLVESTER. I might have to look into that and find what t is before I responded to them. I might want to know who they we

Senator THURMOND. Is it a cited subversive organization!
Mr. SYLVESTER. I would certainly want to know if they were or n

Senator THURMOND. I can say to you it is thoroughly influen by the Communists and is considered a subversive organization.

PROTEST OF AMERICAN CIVIL LIBERTIES UNION ON GLENVIEW SEMIN

The Illinois Chapter of the American Civil Liberties Union al complained to the Secretary of the Navy. This complaint is a litt more sophisticated, but it follows the typical socialist arguments the

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the military has no place in the cold war education on communism. I will read the reply of the Secretary of the Navy to Mr. McKnight:

DEAR MR. McKNIGHT: As you requested in your protest of August 18, 1960, I bare inquired into the circumstances leading up to the seminar, "Education for American Security,” held at the Naval Air Station, Glenview, Ili., August 29 September 2, 1930.

I find that officials of the Naval Air Station, Glenview, went somewhat fur. ther than may have been appropriate in the early stages in cooperating with the sponsors of this event. However, prior to the meeting, they were advised by he Navy Department to publicly correct any impression of Navy sponsorship und to cease using Naval personnel and the franking privilege to promote the trent. I have determined that they made this public disavowal by every means of mass communication at their disposal, and that the use of naval personnel and the franking privilege ceased thereafter.

The loan of Navy facilities to nonpartisan civil and/or veterans groups, at no cost to the Government or interference with operations, is a well-established practice. When such a loan will also provide important moral and patriotic indoctrination for Navy personnel, as this one did, it is particularly desirable.

As to the charge that the substance of lectures and study groups was "political," I find that no recognized American political party was mentioned or referred to with bias. I am sure you do not consider that information regarding the dangers of the international Communist conspiracy as “political propaganda" which should not be given to the American people. Yours very sincerely,

W. B. FRANKE. Have you received any letters like that from the American Civil Liberties Union?

Mr. SYLVESTER. I have no recollection of any.
Senator THURMOND. What would your answer be to such a letter?

Mr. SYLVESTER. I would have to know the details and circumstances. On the basis of what you have read, on the basis of the circumstances sketchily outlined, it seems a pretty good answer.

DEPRIVATION OF LIBERTIES IF COMMUNISTS WIN STRUGGLE

Senator THURMOND. Well, if they oppose the education of Ameriman on communism, then I view their objective with concern. The ACLU will also be deprived of their liberty should communism win in this struggle. Do you not think that they should keep that fact in mind before criticising these seminars?

Mr. SYLVESTER. I think anybody should keep in mind that if they lived under the sort of Communist operation we have seen in Communist countries, it would be the last thing in the world that anybody living in this country would even want to think about.

Senator THURMOND. Of deep concern to me is the memorandum you wrote to all service secretaries, general counsel, all major commands, school commandants, and so forth, on August 2, 1961—

Senator STENNIS. Senator, excuse me, it is just 1 o'clock, if you are going to some new point. Senator THURMOND. Yes, Mr. Chairman, I am.

CHAIRMAN'S COMMENTS OF REVOLUTIONARY ANTIMILITARISM

Senator STENNIS. Before we close, just as an amendment to and for he record, I want to make a comment or two here regarding a quesion that arose this morning when I asked for a definition of the use of that term "revolutionary antimilitarism." When I was a young boy, World War I started and the great talk was that Germany was

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