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Senator MUNDT. Do you recall recommending to any corporation anybody for a position of that kind, while you were Chairman? Mr. HISE. I have an idea that we had half a dozen cases of that kind that you are asking about, but I cannot put my finger on them without knowing what you are talking about.

Senator MUNDT. I am not particularly interested in any one case as I am in the policy. I have information which leads me to believe that it was a common practice for somebody representing the National Democratic Committee to send names to you, or people to interview you-by "you" I mean the RFC Board-trying to get these jobs as directors of companies of that kind.

Mr. HISE. If you have any such information I would be very surprised to find out if there would be more than one, two, three or four, if that many, in my entire experience at RFC.

Senator MUNDT. Do you recall any instances where anybody from the Democratic national committee sent someone to see you, or called you in the interests of somebody, to get a position of that kind.

Mr. HISE. I recall one instance of that kind, and only one, and I cannot think of his name. It was in connection with this insurance company in New York.

Senator MUNDT. Is that Mr. Tribble?

Mr. HISE. That is the one, that is the man's name. That is the only

one.

Senator MUNDT. Can you tell us about that?

Mr. HISE. I cannot tell you anything more than I did have an inquiry from some source, somebody-I do not recall whether it was Mr. Boyle or somebody else from the national committee, asking if I would talk to the man. I talked with that particular man and I also talked with the president of the company at that time, and I talked with some of my associates on the Board, and the man's name was passed along. He was thought by the president of that company to be a good man, and I understand he was appointed.

Senator MUNDT. I have no particular reason to mention his name except that his name was brought up. I am just curious to know, because to me, as a layman, that is not the best way in the world to get directors for a company, on a basis of political nomination. You say it did not happen to your recollection over perhaps six times you were there?

while

Mr. HISE. Maybe less. In this case I would not say that was a political consideration.

Senator MUNDT. I am not saying anything about this case. I am not holding anything against Mr. Tribble.

Mr. HISE. I am saying that my recollection is that he is a very fine man, a very capable man. I would not say that his selection was a political selection. But I am sure that

Senator MUNDT. But he came to your attention from a political source?

Mr. HISE. I am sure it was brought to my attention from a political source, but he may have been brought to my attention from other sources as well. I am not saying that he was brought to my attention from an exclusively political source because I rather doubt that. I think he had other

Senator MUNDT. Do you recall any of the other sources?

Mr. HISE. No, I do not. But I am sure he must have other qualifications. I do not even know if he is a Democrat or not.

Senator MUNDT. I do not either. He is just a name out of the hat to me. That is all, Mr. Chairman.

Senator HOEY. Senator, any questions?

Senator UNDERWOOD. No, sir.

Senator HOEY. Thank you, Mr. Hise. This is taken in executive session but it will be released for publication tomorrow. I want you to know that.

Mr. HISE. That is perfectly all right. Thank you all.

Senator HOEY. Those are all the witnesses that we can take this afternoon.

Senator MCCLELLAN. Do we have any others that come in this category? Mr. Dodds.

Senator HOEY. Yes; one more.

(The excerpts from the diary of Walter L. Dunham are as follows:)

EXCERPTS FROM DIARY OF WALTER L. DUNHAM, 1949-1950

EXCERPTS FROM DIARY OF WALTER L. DUNHAM REGARDING AMERICAN LITHOFOLD

CORPORATION

Monday, June 27, 1949-Mr. Frank Prince called on Mr. Dunham with Mr. Blauner of the American Lithofold Company, St. Louis, Missouri.

Friday, September 30, 1949-Mr. Dunham attended a special meeting of the Board at 11:00 o'clock to act on the following matters:

American Lithofold Corporation, St. Louis, Missouri
Trailmobile Company, Cinn., Ohio, et al.

All of these applications were deferred yesterday.

EXCERPTS FROM DIARY OF WALTER L. DUNHAM REGARDING DEMOCRATIC NATIONAL COMMITTEE OR WILLIAM M. BOYLE

Thursday, April 28, 1949-Lunched with Mr. William M. Boyle, Jr., Executive Vice Chairman, Democratic National Committee, at the Mayflower Hotel. Thursday, May 5, 1949-Mr. Kenneth Burns of Detroit called on Mr. Dunham. Mr. Dunham went with Mr. Burns to call on Mr. Wm. Boyle, Democratic National Committee, at 12:30. Then to the Mayflower Hotel where they joined Mr. Merl Young and Mr. Willett for lunch.

Monday, May 9, 1949-Mr. Wm. Boyle telephoned to make appointment for Mr. George Tribble to call on Mr. Dunham tomorrow at 11:30.

Tuesday, May 10, 1949-Mr. George Tribble, Maryland Casualty Company, Baltimore, called on Mr. Dunham at the suggestion of Mr. Bill Boyle. Tuesday, May 10, 1949-Mr. Dunham lunched with Messrs. Boyle, Young, Dawson, and Kenneth Burns at the Mayflower Hotel.

Thursday, May 26, 1949-Telephoned Mr. Wm. Boyle-call not completed. Friday, May 27, 1949-Telephoned Mr. Wm. Boyle, Democratic National Committee.

Wednesday, June 1, 1949-Also telephoned Mr. Wm. Boyle re Luncheon Friday.

Friday, June 3, 1949-Mr. John Hudson came in about 12:30. He and Mr. Dunham lunched with Messrs. Dawson, Boyle, and Willett at the Mayflower Hotel.

Wednesday, June 8, 1949-Mr. Dunham asked me to call Mr. Tribble, tell him he did not want to see him and that it was not necessary for him to make the trip to Washington. Suggested I read to him letter sent to Mr. McGrath June 6th, with copy to Mr. Boyle, re Waltham Watch, which I did. Call was O. B.

Tuesday, June 14, 1949-Mr. Jerome Walsh, Attorney, Messrs. Willett and Weaver called on Mr. Dunham today re Rhode Island Insurance Company. (Mr. Walsh is a close personal friend of Mr. Bill Boyle's.)

Friday, June 17, 1949-Mr. Dunham lunched with Messrs. Boyle, Dawson, Willett and Young at the Statler Hotel.

Friday, July 8, 1949-Mr. Robert Moore, Democratic National Committee, telephoned Mr. Dunham, at the request of Mr. Bill Boyle, re Wm. Caralow, President of the Home Savings Bank of Boston. Anxious to get Mr. Caralow on the Board of Trustees of Waltham Watch.

Thursday, August 18, 1949-Mr. Dunham called Merle Young to inquire for address of Robert Haggerty. Mr. Young said to mail a letter to 1835 K St., N. W., care of him (Young) and he would see that Mr. Haggerty received it. Also Mr. Dunham talked with Mr. Boyle. Discussed Mr. Tribble-Board of Preferred Accident.

Thursday, September 29, 1949-Sent Day Letter to Wm. M. Boyle, Jr., c/o Hotel Muehlbach, Kansas City, Missouri, over Ex. 0988.

Thursday, October 13, 1949-Mr. William Boyle telephoned re George Tribble. Mr. Dunham said he would call Mr. Hise Monday and discuss Mr. Tribble's situation. Made tentative luncheon date for sometime next week, after Wednesday.

Monday, October 17, 1949-Mr. Dunham telephoned Mr. Bill Boyle who is out of town until Wednesday-talked with Mr. Neil Roach instead. Told him the RFC Board, at this morning's meeting, recommended Mr. George Tribble for a directorate on the Board of Preferred Accident Insurance Company. Mr. Roach was very pleased to hear this and sai? he would pass the information on to Mr. Boyle.

Friday, October 21, 1949-Mr. Gray Leslie, Assistant to Mr. Boyle, telephone re Douglas Mills, Inc., of Douglas, Georgia, and Haleyville, Alabama. Mr. Seth Petterson handling this case.

Tuesday, October 25, 1949-Telephoned Mr. Bill Boyle-at home ill. Friday, November 25, 1949-Mr. Dunham lunched with Mr. Donald Dawson, talked with him about Mr. John Hudson regarding Mr. George Fitzgerald's letter to Mr. Boyle, Chairman of the Democratic National Committee. Mr. Dunham had told Mr. Hudson that if anything developed after his talk with Mr. Dawson he would either write him a note or call him on the phone.

Thursday, February 2, 1950-Senator J. A. Hastings of New York telephoned from Mr. Bill Boyle's office. Said he will call Mr. Dunham again upon his return to Washington.

Thursday, February 9, 1950-Mr. Turney Gratz telephoned. Made appointment for Mr. Sam Morris, National Committeeman from Arizona, to see Mr. Dunham. Mr. Bill Boyle, Democratic Chairman, also telephoned to tell Mr. Dunham that Mr. Morris is a very close friend of his and the purpose of his call is to talk with Mr. Dunham re the Copper City Mining Company of Gila County, Arizona. Said the first loan these people had from the RFC in the amount of $3 million has already been paid. Mr. Morris called on Mr. Dunham. Mr. Willett was present for a short while-Mr. Dunham finally took Mr. Morris to Mr. Mulligan's office.

Thursday, March 30, 1950-Mrs. Florence Lynch, National Committeewoman of Iowa came in re Pacific Paperboard Company, Long View, Wash. of which she is Vice President. The loan came in for $450,000 on March 27th with the Agency declining. Mr. Kennedy of Agency said in his letter that a loan in the reduced amount of $200,000 might be approved inasmuch as $1,550,000 is still outstanding from this company. Mrs. Lynch's appointment came through Mr. Boyle's office.

Wednesday, July 12, 1950-Mr. Bill Boyle's office telephoned. Made appointment for Mr. Leo B. Parker of Parker & Knipmeyer, Attorneys, Kansas City, Missouri, to see Mr. Dunham at 3:00 o'clock. Talked with Mr. Dunham re Preferred Accident.

Thursday, July 13, 1950-Mr. Bill Boyle telephoned to possibility of appointing Leo B. Parker to the Board of Preferred Accident. Said he was most anxious to become associated with Preferred in that capacity and asked Mr. Dunham to see what he could do toward bringing it about. Mr. Dunham stated that he would start working on it immediately.

Friday, July 14, 1950-Mr. Leo B. Parker of Kansas City again called on Mr. Dunham at the suggestion of Mr. Bill Boyle.

Wednesday, July 19, 1950-Mr. Merl Young telephoned. Discussed matter of appointing George Tribble, now a member of the board of Preferred Accident, to the Presidency. Mr. Dunham stated that, in view of the investigation being conducted at the present time, the safest course to follow is to do nothing until the report is completed. If it develops that the company is being badly managed, it is up to us to make a change. Also mentioned the fact that Bill Boyle

had sent Leo Parker over to discuss possibility of being appointed a director of Preferred Accident.

EXCERPTS FROM DIARY OF WALTER L. DUNHAM REGARDING E. MERL YOUNG Thursday, March 24, 1949-Mr. Merl Young, Democratic National Committee telephoned-talked with Mr. Dunham.

Friday, March 25, 1949-Messrs. Merl Young and Jim Windom called on Mr. Dunham after lunch.

Thursday, March 31, 1949-Merl Young telephoned to arrange a luncheon date with him, Mr. Dawson and Mr. Willett. Mr. Dunham already committed for lunch tomorrow-will have to make it some other time.

Tuesday, April 5, 1949-Telephoned Mr. Merl Young at Di. 1717.

Wednesday, April 6, 1949-Telephoned Mr. Haswell. Told him Mr. Dunham, Mr. Brooks Barron and Mr. George Fitzgerald were lunching at the Willard at 12:30 and wanted him to join them. Accepted.

Wednesday, April 6, 1949-Also telephoned Mr. Merl Young and extended the same invitation.

Wednesday, April 6, 1949-Mr. S. Brooks Barron and George S. Fitzgerald, both of the Guardian Building, Detroit, Michigan, called on Mr. Dunham. Joined them, Mr. Haswell and Mr. Merl Young at luncheon at the Willard Hotel. Tuesday, April 12, 1949-Mr. Merl Young telephoned from Detroit. Tuesday, April 19, 1949-Mr. Merl Young telephoned.

Wednesday, April 20, 1949-Lunched with Mr. Merl Young at the Statler Hotel. Thursday, April 21, 1949-Left the office about 9:15 with Mr. Merl Young to see the Lustron house at Quantico.

Thursday, April 21, 1949-Returned to the office about 12:30 with Merl Young-they joined Messrs. Ronan and Boardman for lunch.

Wednesday, April 27, 1949-Left with Messrs. Hise, Gunderson and Willett for Quantico at 10:00 o'clock, together with the following men: General Shepard, Mr. Stow, Merl Young, Commander Davis, Mr. Dyas, Mr. Akin, Mr. Hood, Colonel Pate and Captain Bueck.

onday, May 2, 1949-Mr. Merl Young telephoned from Detroit twice. Talked with me first. Said he would be in Washington Tuesday evening and would call Mr. Dunham at home. Also asked me to make reservation for him to Columbus, Ohio, and return Wednesday, May 4th. Telephoned later and talked with Mr. Dunham.

Thursday, May 5, 1949-Mr. Kenneth Burns of Detroit called on Mr. Dunham. Mr. Dunham went with Mr. Burns to call on Mr. Wm. Boyle, Democratic National Committee, at 12:30. Then to the Mayflower Hotel where they joined Mr. Merl Young and Mr. Willett for lunch.

Friday, May 6, 1949-Mr. Alfred H. Rudich, President of the MonticelloSullivan County Airport, Inc., Monticello, New York, and Judge Arthur Kyle called on Mr. Dunham at the suggestion of Mr. Merl Young. Mr. Frank Prince was present at the meeting.

Tuesday, May 10, 1949-Mr. Dunham lunched with Messrs. Boyle, Young, Dawson, and Kenneth Burns at the Mayflower Hotel.

Friday, May 13, 1949-Messrs. Merl Young and Carl G. Strandlund, of the Lustron Corporation called on Mr. Dunham today.

Wednesday, May 18, 1950-Mr. Dunham lunched with Messrs. Merl Young and Willett.

Thursday, May 19, 1949-Mr. Merl Young telephoned.
Wednesday, May 25, 1949-Mr. Merl Young telephoned.
Tuesday, May 31, 1949-Mr. Merl Young telephoned.

Tuesday, May 31, 1949-Mr. Dunham left shortly after 5:00 o'clock to get a haircut. Mr, Merl Young called to say that he was leaving town and would call Mr. Durham upon his return.

Tuesday, June 7, 1949-Merl Young telephoned-made luncheon date for tomorrow.

Wednesday, June 8, 1949-Lunched with Mr. Merl Young at the Statler Hotel. Friday, June 10, 1949-Mr. Merl Young telephoned re lunch with him, Rex Jacobs, and Jim Windom. Mr. Dunham declined because of a previous engagement. Suggested they come in this afternoon.

Thursday, June 16, 1949—Mr. Merl Young telephoned re lunch tomorrow. Friday, June 17, 1949-Mr. Dunham lunched with Messrs. Boyle, Dawson, Willett, and Young at the Statler Hotel.

Monday, June 20, 1949-Mr. Merl Young telephoned-made luncheon date for tomorrow.

Tuesday, June 21, 1949-Lunched with Mr. Merl Young at the Statler Hotel. Thursday, June 23, 1949-Mr. Merl Young telephoned-talked with Mr. Dunham. Leaving town this afternoon for about a week or ten days.

Wednesday, July 6, 1949-Merl Young telephoned-made luncheon date for tomorrow.

Thursday, July 7, 1949-Lunched with Mr. Merl Young at the Statler Hotel. Monday, July 11, 1949-Lunched with Mr. Merl Young and Mr. Willett. Thursday, July 14, 1949-Merl Young telephoned.

Friday, July 15, 1949-Merl Young telephoned.

Monday, July 18, 1949-Mr. Merl Young telephoned (Lustron Corporation). Friday, July 22, 1949-Mr. Merl Young telephoned to arrange luncheon date for 1:00 o'clock today, Statler Hotel, to meet his brother and several men interested in Lustron. Mr. Dunham accepted.

Tuesday, July 26, 1949-Mr. Merl Young telephoned-made luncheon date for tomorrow.

Wednesday, July 27, 1949-Mr. Dunham lunched with Messrs. Kenneth Burns and Merl Young at the Statler Hotel.

Friday, July 29, 1949-Mr. Merl Young telephoned from the Airport-leaving for Virginia Beach.

Monday, August 15, 1949-Mr. Merl Young phoned Mr. Dunham.

Thursday, August 18, 1949-Mr. Dunham called Mr. Merl Young to inquire for address of Robert Haggerty. Mr. Young said to mail a letter to 1835 K St. N. W., care of him (Young) and he would see that Mr. Haggerty received it. Also Mr. Dunham talked with Mr. Boyle. Discussed Mr. Tribble-Board of Preferred Accident.

Thursday, August 25, 1949-Mr. Merl Young phoned Mr. Dunham.

Friday, August 26, 1949-Mr. Merl Young called. Talked of Rex-said to tell you Ed would go down there. Made luncheon date with Mr. Young at Statler. Friday, August 26, 1949-Mr. Dunham went to lunch w/Mr. Merl Young at the Statler.

Monday, August 29, 1949-Mr. Merl Young called. Talked about Lustron. Wednesday, August 31, 1949-Mr. Merl Young phoned.

Thursday, September 1, 1949-Mr. Merl Young called. Said he's coming over tomorrow morning.

Friday, September 2, 1949-Merl Young called.

Tuesday, September 6, 1949-Mr. Willett came in about 4:00 o'clock with Messrs, John Merriam and Herschel Young (brother of Merl Young) re the Buffalo Weaving & Manufacturing Company.

Wednesday, September 7, 1949-Lunched with Mr. Merl Young at the Statler

Hotel.

Wednesday, September 14, 1949-Mr. Merl Young telephoned-talked with Mr. Dunham.

Thursday, September 15, 1949-Mr. Merl Young telephoned.

Wednesday, September 28, 1949-Mr. Merl Young telephoned-invited Mr. and Mrs. Dunham to join them at dinner tonight. Accepted.

Tuesday, October 11, 1949-Lunched with Messrs. Willett and Young-went to Mr. Young's office afterwards.

Wednesday, October 12, 1949-Mr. Merl Young telephoned.

Thursday, October 13, 1949-Mr. Merl Young telephoned.

Wednesday, October 19, 1949-Mr. Dunham lunched with Messrs. George Hicks and Merl Young at the Statler Hotel. Mr. Willett was to join them but they got their wires crossed somewhere along the line and he did not.

Monday, October 24, 1949-Lunched with Mr. Merl Young at the Statler Hotel. Tuesday, October 25, 1949-Mr. Merl Young telephoned. Made appointment for Mr. A. S. Blagden, Federal Machine & Welder Company, Warren, Ohio, to see Mr. Dunham. Mr. Blagden previously called on the 13th.

Wednesday, October 26, 1949 Mr. Merl Young telephoned. Made appointment for his brother, Herschel Young, and John Merriam of Philadelphia, to see Mr. Dunham. Mr. Merriam talked with Mr. Dunham re talking over the management of the Lustron Plant.

Thursday, October 27, 1949-Merl Young telephoned. Returned his call later but he had left his office.

Friday, October 28, 1949-Mr. Merl Young telephoned-talked with Mr. Dun

ham.

Wednesday, November 9, 1949-Mr. Merl Young telephoned.
Wednesday, November 16, 1949-Mr. Merl Young telephoned.

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