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Finley, Harry R., Associate Director, National Security and International
Affairs Division, General Accounting Office...........

609

Gabriel, Gen. Charles A., Chief of Staff, U.S. Air Force:

Statement........

119

Prepared statement

123

Galvin, Gen. John R., Commander in Chief, U.S. Southern Command:

Statement......

858

Prepared statement

858

Goodpaster, Gen. Andrew J., U.S. Army (retired), former Commander in

Chief, U.S. European Command:

Statement......

297

Prepared statement

302

Gorman, Gen. Paul F., U.S. Army (retired), member, President's Blue Ribbon
Commission on Defense Management; and former Commander in Chief,
U.S. Southern Command

457

Grinstead, Vice Adm. Eugene, U.S. Navy (retired), former Director, Defense
Logistics Agency:

Statement......

403

Prepared statement

406

Hansen, Vice Adm. Thor, U.S. Navy (retired), former Director, Joint Staff..
Herres, Gen. Robert T., U.S. Air Force, Commander in Chief, U.S. Aerospace
Defense Command and U.S. Space Command:

167

Statement......

801

Prepared statement

812

Holloway, Adm. James L., U.S. Navy (retired), member, President's Blue
Ribbon Commission on Defense Management; and former Chief of Naval
Operations.....

457

Jones, Gen. David C., U.S. Air Force (retired), former Chairman of the Joint
Chiefs of Staff; and former Chief of Staff of the Air Force........
Kelley, Gen. P.X., Commandant, U.S. Marine Corps.

533

129

Kester, John G., former Special Assistant to the former Secretary of Defense:
Statement........

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Prepared statement

738

Komer, Hon. Robert, former Under Secretary of Defense for Policy

195

Korb, Hon. Lawrence J., Vice President, Corporate Operations, Raytheon Co.; and former Assistant Secretary of Defense for Manpower, Reserve Affairs and Logistics:

Statement.....

267

Prepared statement.

270

Latham, Hon. Donald C., Assistant Secretary of Defense for Command, Control, Communications and Intelligence:

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Luttwak, Edward N., author, “The Pentagon and the Art of War"

203

Mahaffey, Gen. Fred K., U.S. Army, Commander in Chief, U.S. Readiness
Command..

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McLucas, Hon. John, former Secretary of the Air Force.

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307

Meyer, Gen. E.C., U.S. Army (retired), former Chief of Staff, U.S. Army.... Moorer, Adm. Thomas H., U.S. Navy (retired), former Chairman, Joint Chiefs of Staff:

Statement.....

Prepared statement

Nichols, Hon. Bill, a Representative from Alabama, Chairman, Investigations
Subcommittee....

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95, 157, 195, 237, 283, 316, 363, 453, 533, 544, 597, 767, 780, 801, 833 Letter from Chairman Bill Nichols to Secretary of Defense Caspar Weinberger announcing hearings on Department of Defense Reorganization.. Defense Logistics Agency Overview.....

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866

Odeen, Philip A., chairman, Georgetown University Center for Strategic and
International Studies, Defense Organization Project:

Statement...

833

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Odeen, Philip A., chairman, Georgetown University Center for Strategic and
International Studies, Defense Organization Project-Continued

Prepared statement

838

Oettinger, Anthony G., Professor, Harvard University:

Prepared statement

Statement.......

Packard, Hon. David, Chairman, President's Blue Ribbon Commission on
Defense Management; and former Deputy Secretary of Defense:

565

567

Statement......

457

Prepared statement

459

Peters, Dr. Tom, author of "In Search of Excellence" and "Passion for Excellence".

822

Pirie, Hon. Robin, former Assistant Secretary of Defense for Manpower, Reserve Affairs and Logistics; and Vice President of the Institute for Defense Analysis......

Powers, Lt. Gen. Winston, U.S. Air Force, Director of Defense Communications Agency, Department of Defense..

Richardson, Hon. Elliot L., former Secretary of Defense..

Rogers, Gen. Bernard, Commander in Chief, U.S. European Command..
CINCEUR's View of Actions Required for ODS/JCS Reorganization
Rosenberg, Maj. Gen. Robert A., U.S. Air Force, Director, Defense Mapping
Agency: Prepared statement...

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Scowcroft, Gen. Brent, U.S. Air Force (retired), member, President's Blue Ribbon Commission on Defense Management; and former Special Assistant to the President for National Security Affairs...

Statement.......

Prepared statement

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188

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Taft, Hon. William H., IV, Deputy Secretary of Defense:

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Train, Adm. Harry D., U.S. Navy (retired), former Commander in Chief, U.S.
Atlantic Command.

157

Vessey, Gen. John W., Jr., U.S. Army (retired), former chairman, Joint Chiefs of Staff.

248

Vogt, Gen. John, U.S. Air Force (retired), former Commander, U.S. Air
Forces, Europe, and former Commander Allied Air Forces, Europe

582

Wade, Hon. James P., Jr., Assistant Secretary of Defense for Acquisition and
Logistics:

Statement.......

219

Prepared statement

221

Watkins, Adm. James, Chief of Naval Operations, Joint Chiefs of Staff:
Statement.......

105

Prepared statement

110

Welch, Gen. Larry D., Commander in Chief, Strategic Air Command and
Director, Joint Strategic Target Planning Staff:

Statement..

780

Prepared statement

783

Wickham, Gen. John A., Jr., Chief of Staff, U.S. Army:

Statement.......

95

Prepared statement

98

Woolsey, Hon. James, member, President's Blue Ribbon Commission on Defense Management; and former Under Secretary of the Navy.

767

APPENDICES

H.R. 4234, to amend title 10, United States Code, to improve the capability of the Armed Forces to carry out assigned missions by providing greater authority to the commanders of the unified and specified combatant commands to carry out their assigned responsibilities, and for other purposes H.R. 4235, to amend title 10, United States Code, to establish military officer personnel policies that promote and encourage improved performance of joint functions.......

H.R. 4236, to revise, reform, and standardize the organization of the executive part of the military departments, and for other purposes..

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H.R. 4237, to amend title 10, United States Code, to improve oversight of the defense agencies, particularly those agencies that support operating forces, and to require a report to Congress analyzing the functions and organizational structure of the defense agencies..

H.R. 4068, to abolish the Defense Logistics Agency and the Defense Contract
Audit Agency.

H.R. 4370, to amend title 10, United States Code, to reorganize the Department of Defense..

H.R. 4370 (showing H.R. 4370 as reported by the Investigations Subcommittee of the Committee on Armed Services), to amend title 10, United States Code, to reorganize the Department of Defense..........

Goldwater-Nichols Department of Defense Reorganization Act of 1986............

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REORGANIZATION OF THE DEPARTMENT OF

DEFENSE

HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES,

COMMITTEE ON ARMED SERVICES,

SUBCOMMITTEE ON INVESTIGATIONS,

Washington, DC, Wednesday, February 19, 1986.

The subcommittee met, pursuant to notice, at 9:35 a.m., in room 2337, Rayburn House Office Building, Hon. Bill Nichols (chairman of the subcommittee) presiding.

OPENING STATEMENT OF HON. BILL NICHOLS, A REPRESENTATIVE FROM ALABAMA, CHAIRMAN, INVESTIGATIONS SUBCOMMITTEE

Mr. NICHOLS. Over the last 40 years there has been a no more consistently troubling question than the organization of our national defense establishment.

The National Security Act of 1947, as well as its amendments in 1949 and 1958, provided us with a framework that has endured over that period. But that framework has been the target of continuous criticism, suggesting that we could and should do better.

Over the years at least a dozen Presidential commissions or special panels, as well as an untold number of academic studies, have left an impressive documentary record of the need to improve. In this decade the changing international security environment, particularly characterized by the demonstration of a new order of Soviet military capabilities, gave additional urgency to this question.

In 1982 two of this country's most distinguished military leaders, Gen. David C. Jones, Chairman, Joint Chiefs of Staff, and Gen. Edward C. Meyer, Chief of Staff, U.S. Army, took the lead in urging that the JCS system be strengthened by a number of comprehensive reforms. We in the Congress took particular note of their recommendations. I'm especially proud of the record of this House in holding comprehensive hearings on JCS reform and in moving aggressively to recommend legislation.

Last November, the House passed a JCS reform measure, H.R. 3622, by vote of 383 to 27. We sent it to the Senate. Two of our distinguished colleagues in the other body, Senator Barry Goldwater, and Senator Sam Nunn of Georgia have not only moved to examine the issue of JCS reform, but have broadened their investigations to embrace the larger question of Department of Defense organization.

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